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<p>[QUOTE="mrbrklyn, post: 542192, member: 4381"]Sorry Drusus</p><p><br /></p><p>I've read many technology opinions from you, mostly defending some sort of proprietary format, software or company, mostly based on fiction and misconceptions fed to you buy sales sheets and filled with marketing jargon, but this post on your part clearly puts you into the realm of proven ignorance about even the most fundamental aspects of computer literacy. You are missing a basic background in computer literacy and make statements that not valid or factual.</p><p><br /></p><p>First of all, after reading your post, I think its quite clear that you do not know what the W3C's standards for internet communications are, that is the standards which every web browser must comply with. Secondly, I don't think you have the field experience to know just how screwed up Dream Weaver's output is on any browser not called “Microsoft Internet Explorer”. I've never seen anyone ever claim that Dream Weaver doesn't throw in a truck full of HTML non-standardized extensions. I don't think that you can recognize which extensions Internet Explorer has which are not standard under any HTML or XHTML standard even including the proposed HTML 4.0 which was never even approved.</p><p><br /></p><p>The statement that any “Word” could open up any Dream Weaver output and render is so circular of an argument and observation to be laughable. Word can't even open up their own files, but why on earth would that be any kind of test that Dream Weaver creates files according to standard is frankly bizarre. Word is a Word Processor. Unless Microsoft is violating the GPL again and slipped a GECKO engine into Word, how it opens up and translates and HTML document is completely random and done for the conveniences of Word Processing not HTML creation or rendering. </p><p><br /></p><p>And then you lectured about how if Dream Weaver does put that non-standardized claptrap into your web pages, nobody will care. And then you make some off the cuff remark about how people using HTML in a plain editor somehow create outputs that just look time they are throwing things on a website in a disorderly fashion.</p><p><br /></p><p>Huh? Can you be further out in right field?</p><p><br /></p><p>Every page on About.Com is constructed, at least when I worked there, with HTML::Templates, with the templates created by the design team in XEMACS. Ditto with the templates for the NY Times, and the construction for that matter of Coin Talk. Does Cointalk look like a bunch of disorganized things?</p><p><br /></p><p>Then you say that if the users doesn't want to learn HTML he can “design” his sight with Dream Weaver? Oh yeah? It won't take long before the overhead of the spaghetti code that Dream Weaver creates will be completely unmaintainable. Meanwhile you'll deny the user of ever having the option of later adding any kind of server side templating to help organize his stuff and rapidly adding coins and removing coins will make this all but desired within a short period of time. The other day I added 68 coins and over 200 photo's to my site in under 2 hours, with text. There is no chance of doing that with Dream Weaver. So until you actually gain some basic grasp of the concepts being discussed here, maybe it would be beneficial to you to refrain from making so many incorrect statements, at least until you have a solid foundation in the material being discussed.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mrbrklyn, post: 542192, member: 4381"]Sorry Drusus I've read many technology opinions from you, mostly defending some sort of proprietary format, software or company, mostly based on fiction and misconceptions fed to you buy sales sheets and filled with marketing jargon, but this post on your part clearly puts you into the realm of proven ignorance about even the most fundamental aspects of computer literacy. You are missing a basic background in computer literacy and make statements that not valid or factual. First of all, after reading your post, I think its quite clear that you do not know what the W3C's standards for internet communications are, that is the standards which every web browser must comply with. Secondly, I don't think you have the field experience to know just how screwed up Dream Weaver's output is on any browser not called “Microsoft Internet Explorer”. I've never seen anyone ever claim that Dream Weaver doesn't throw in a truck full of HTML non-standardized extensions. I don't think that you can recognize which extensions Internet Explorer has which are not standard under any HTML or XHTML standard even including the proposed HTML 4.0 which was never even approved. The statement that any “Word” could open up any Dream Weaver output and render is so circular of an argument and observation to be laughable. Word can't even open up their own files, but why on earth would that be any kind of test that Dream Weaver creates files according to standard is frankly bizarre. Word is a Word Processor. Unless Microsoft is violating the GPL again and slipped a GECKO engine into Word, how it opens up and translates and HTML document is completely random and done for the conveniences of Word Processing not HTML creation or rendering. And then you lectured about how if Dream Weaver does put that non-standardized claptrap into your web pages, nobody will care. And then you make some off the cuff remark about how people using HTML in a plain editor somehow create outputs that just look time they are throwing things on a website in a disorderly fashion. Huh? Can you be further out in right field? Every page on About.Com is constructed, at least when I worked there, with HTML::Templates, with the templates created by the design team in XEMACS. Ditto with the templates for the NY Times, and the construction for that matter of Coin Talk. Does Cointalk look like a bunch of disorganized things? Then you say that if the users doesn't want to learn HTML he can “design” his sight with Dream Weaver? Oh yeah? It won't take long before the overhead of the spaghetti code that Dream Weaver creates will be completely unmaintainable. Meanwhile you'll deny the user of ever having the option of later adding any kind of server side templating to help organize his stuff and rapidly adding coins and removing coins will make this all but desired within a short period of time. The other day I added 68 coins and over 200 photo's to my site in under 2 hours, with text. There is no chance of doing that with Dream Weaver. So until you actually gain some basic grasp of the concepts being discussed here, maybe it would be beneficial to you to refrain from making so many incorrect statements, at least until you have a solid foundation in the material being discussed.[/QUOTE]
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