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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;mrbrklyn, post: 541332, member: 4381&quot;]Seems to work great when I teach.&nbsp; We&#039;ve gotten over 1000 students those far and counting twirling apache config files, hammering modperl, perl, C, PHP and zipping through website construction, usually surpassing my own skills in short time.</p><p><br /></p><p>When your working off a Ubuntu or OpenSUSE system, your really functioning in an integrated environment.&nbsp; I have the gimp now hooked directly into firefox so that I can quickly edit graphics right off the webserver.&nbsp; GVIM is not your mothers VI editor.&nbsp; We have it automated to make templates with an F3, or F4.&nbsp; The webserver pulls everything together and RSYNC through SSH keeps the revisions on the server upto date automatically with production server.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do introduce revision control with RCS and CVS, but its just a quick going over.</p><p><br /></p><p>But the bottom line is that without basic HTML know how, your screwed.&nbsp; And dream weaver is hardly the top of the line software of page production.&nbsp; Several MAJOR web firms have gotten so fed up with it that they have banded it.&nbsp; It also creates bad habits.</p><p><br /></p><p>Any Word Process will create drag and drop HTML these days, as so will firefox.&nbsp; But they all suck to varying extents and once you decide to add some programming to the stuff, and you crack open the files and find they resemble chicken soup, then you understand why they are hated so much.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ruben[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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