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<p>[QUOTE="mrbrklyn, post: 540993, member: 4381"]You guys make it so hard. Using dream weaver is frankly the fastest way to make junk you can't maintain and nobody can understand while wasting a ton of money for 90% of the features built already in Firefox. </p><p><br /></p><p>Using wordpress is shooting a fly with a bazooka and of course requires access to a real server, which is easy enough if you download a GNU system and by a static IP address DSL or cable line.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Learn 10 minutes of HTML and get a real webserver coloation for a few bucks a month. Try <a href="http://www.panix.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.panix.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.panix.com</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p> Get a free editor like VIM and write HTML. </p><p><br /></p><p>I can't emphasis this enough anyway. DON'T PUT UP A WEBSITE WITHOUT BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF HTML 2.0 or stumble around blindly like a fool for the rest of your on line life.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is my basic Coin Collecting Website:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins.html/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins.html/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins.html/</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>This and everything else that has ever been put on my server has been written with the <a href="http://www.vim.org" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.vim.org" rel="nofollow">VIM </a>Editor and HTML</p><p><br /></p><p>This is the tools that you need. It doesn't take long to master them. After mastering them you will never be at anyones mercy again for your websites.</p><p><br /></p><p>These are the basic tools you need:</p><p><b>A) A TEXTeditor:</b></p><p>Use <a href="http://www.vim.org/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.vim.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vim.org/</a> or any other decent editor that stays out of your way</p><p><br /></p><p><b>B) An Image Manipulation Program</b></p><p><a href="http://www.gimp.org/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.gimp.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gimp.org/</a> - The all powerful image editor program</p><p><br /></p><p><b>C) Basic Education - Knowledge - Share it</b></p><p><a href="http://html.net/tutorials/html/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://html.net/tutorials/html/" rel="nofollow">http://html.net/tutorials/html/</a> - which is even to difficult for basic html</p><p><br /></p><p>or </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Advanced.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Advanced.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Advanced.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>or get an OLD version of the Koala Book from O'Reilly</p><p>The Definitive Guild to HTML - some version before CSS like Version 3 or 2. The old version had a GREAT cheat sheet on the back cover with all 30 or so basic HTML tags which ALL browsers still use and understand.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://oreilly.com/catalog/covers/1565924924_cat.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001MVKIIU/ref=sr_1_olp_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236656654&sr=8-2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001MVKIIU/ref=sr_1_olp_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236656654&sr=8-2" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001MVKIIU/ref=sr_1_olp_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236656654&sr=8-2</a></p><p><br /></p><p>here are some for $4.00</p><p><br /></p><p>And finally Apache</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.apache.org" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.apache.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.apache.org</a></p><p><br /></p><p>You should have a quicky local server on your own computer to see how your site works. This is called a development station in the business.</p><p><br /></p><p>My 8 year old son mastered this (OK - he is now 12), and so can you.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, LOOK at Firefox. There is an HTML editor built into it. ONCE you get familiar with HTML, you might use it to make templates.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is a sample HTML file created by myself for my coin collections website. Its fairly simple and straight forward.</p><p><br /></p><p>[CODE]</p><p><HTML></p><p><HEAD><TITLE>Ruben Safir Coins Collection and Information</TITLE></HEAD></p><p><BODY BACKGROUND="#FFFFFF" TEXT="#3333FF" LINK="#00AA00"></p><p><CENTER></p><p><H2></p><p><A HREF="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/halfs/columbian_obverse.png"></p><p><IMG SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/halfs/columbian_obverse_sm.png" ALIGN="MIDDLE" width=150 height=149></A></p><p>Coin Collecting at the Safir House</p><p><A HREF="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/halfs/columbia_reverse.png"></p><p><IMG SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/halfs/columbia_reverse_sm.png" ALIGN="MIDDLE" width=150 height=147></A></p><p></H2></p><p></CENTER></p><p>[+ localtime +]</p><p><HR></p><p><IMG ALT="Schmuel-Leib Eliezar checking out his coins" TITLE="Schmuel-Leib Checking his Coins" SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/purim_2006/schmuel2_cons.jpg" ALIGN="LEFT" BORDER="5"> At the Safir home everyone collects coins, although some are more enthusiastic about it than others. Things started with gifts of the American Silver Eagle series from the US mint, and </p><p>like many things, might have gotten out of hand a little. Between the love of the camera and the love of coins, </p><p>our family can spend hours looking, photographing and chating about coins with friends.<P></p><p><br /></p><p>For anyone interested in talking 'Coins' on the net, take a look at <A HREF="http://www.cointalk.org">Coin Talk</A></p><p>where we have fun posting pictures of our new coins and talking shop. There are some great experts there and we always</p><p>ask on the forum before making purchases because their opinions are always dead on. <P></p><p><br /></p><p><H3>We held a contest on Cointalk and had Great Results</H3></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a list of Coin Exhibit Entrees for the contest from around the Gobe and <A HREF="http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/coins/contest.html">the votes. Check them out. They are great</A></p><p><P></p><p>In addition to Coin Talk there is the publication <A HREF="http://www.coinworld.com/">Coin World</A> which can be </p><p>subscribed to. It is a weekly newspaper type of publication with good information and lots of advertisments.</p><p><P></p><p>On the Intenet there is also <A HREF="http://www.coinfacts.com/">Coin Facts</A> which largely lists every known</p><p>US Coin type as well <A HREF="http://coins.heritageauctions.com/">Heritage Auctions</A> which is a good place to buy</p><p>coins online, especially for beginners. Heritage has the best pictures and the best selling history on coins, greatly</p><p>reducing the chances of buying either a fake coin or over paying because of ignorance. Heritage even has software </p><p>to help you keep track of your coins. It is a great resource.</p><p><P></p><p>A word about Ebay. Unless your an expert, don't make any purchases of coins from Ebay without asking folks on</p><p>cointalk for an opinion first. You can loose ytour shirt otherwise. The scams with coins on ebay are famous amongst</p><p>collectors on Cointalk, so listen and learn before plunging into the market.<P></p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, if you find some old coins that you think might be worth something, <B>NEVER NEVER NEVER DIP, POLISH OR CLEAN</p><p>THE COINS</B>. You will destroy the value of the coins like that. They are not silverware, they are historical </p><p>peices. Polishing is a major no no as it destroys the coins original surface.<P></p><p><br /></p><p><IMG ALT="Itka Shira Safir checking out her coins" TITLE="Itka Shira Safir Checking out her Coins" SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/purim_2006/itka_2_cons.jpg" ALIGN="RIGHT" BORDER="5"></p><p>If you live in New York, like Ruben Safir and his family does, you can take advantage of a few resources like</p><p><A HREF="http://www.nyinc.info/">The New York International Numismatic Convention</A> which focuses on foriegn and</p><p>anceint coins. the show is going to be on January 12-14th and the Waldof Astoria Hotel in 2007. We hope to go</p><p>with the kids and take some pictures. Also <A HREF="http://www.numismatics.org/">The American Numismastic Society</A> is located on Fulton and William Streets in the Financial District just west of South Street Sea Port. And if you need a good dealer in Brooklyn, try Pace Coins, Ralf Pfali ANA-LM and Howard Lebowitz.<P></p><p><br /></p><p>Pace Coins<BR></p><p>1-718-627-0340<BR></p><p>2109 East 19th Street (Avenue U)<BR></p><p>Brooklyn, USA 11229</p><p><P></p><p><br /></p><p>Just because all this is so much fun, I thought that I would post some pictures of what we look like as we work on this website, including the equiptment that we are </p><p>using. In general, we do things on the cheap using a Sony Cybershot digital camera for the photo's and like all other software we use, we use the </p><p><a HREF="http://www.gimp.org">The Gimp</A> for the photo editing<P></p><p><IMG SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/01142009/newcoins.jpg" BORDER="4"><BR></p><p><IMG SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/nycoinshow/shani_bear.jpg" BORDER="4"><BR></p><p><IMG SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/01042009/coin_talk_work_station_sm.jpg" BORDER="4"><BR></p><p>[- Execute ('coins/menu.html') -]</p><p></BODY></p><p></HTML></p><p>[/CODE]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The most important thing for your first website is KISS KISS KISS - Keep it SIMPLE stupid. HTML was designed to be simple and accessible to all. As time moved on, publishing houses pressured the W3C, who sets standards for the web, to increasingly complicate it. Believe me, with a large enough collection, there is plenty of things to figure out aside from why a version of CSS DIV attributes unpredictably works differently on 3 different platforms, 2 of them rendering virtually under readable.</p><p><br /></p><p>Learn basic HTML.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mrbrklyn, post: 540993, member: 4381"]You guys make it so hard. Using dream weaver is frankly the fastest way to make junk you can't maintain and nobody can understand while wasting a ton of money for 90% of the features built already in Firefox. Using wordpress is shooting a fly with a bazooka and of course requires access to a real server, which is easy enough if you download a GNU system and by a static IP address DSL or cable line. Learn 10 minutes of HTML and get a real webserver coloation for a few bucks a month. Try [url]http://www.panix.com[/url]. Get a free editor like VIM and write HTML. I can't emphasis this enough anyway. DON'T PUT UP A WEBSITE WITHOUT BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF HTML 2.0 or stumble around blindly like a fool for the rest of your on line life. This is my basic Coin Collecting Website: [url]http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins.html/[/url] This and everything else that has ever been put on my server has been written with the [URL="http://www.vim.org"]VIM [/URL]Editor and HTML This is the tools that you need. It doesn't take long to master them. After mastering them you will never be at anyones mercy again for your websites. These are the basic tools you need: [B]A) A TEXTeditor:[/B] Use [url]http://www.vim.org/[/url] or any other decent editor that stays out of your way [B]B) An Image Manipulation Program[/B] [url]http://www.gimp.org/[/url] - The all powerful image editor program [B]C) Basic Education - Knowledge - Share it[/B] [url]http://html.net/tutorials/html/[/url] - which is even to difficult for basic html or [url]http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Advanced.html[/url] or get an OLD version of the Koala Book from O'Reilly The Definitive Guild to HTML - some version before CSS like Version 3 or 2. The old version had a GREAT cheat sheet on the back cover with all 30 or so basic HTML tags which ALL browsers still use and understand. [IMG]http://oreilly.com/catalog/covers/1565924924_cat.gif[/IMG] [url]http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001MVKIIU/ref=sr_1_olp_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236656654&sr=8-2[/url] here are some for $4.00 And finally Apache [url]http://www.apache.org[/url] You should have a quicky local server on your own computer to see how your site works. This is called a development station in the business. My 8 year old son mastered this (OK - he is now 12), and so can you. Finally, LOOK at Firefox. There is an HTML editor built into it. ONCE you get familiar with HTML, you might use it to make templates. This is a sample HTML file created by myself for my coin collections website. Its fairly simple and straight forward. [CODE] <HTML> <HEAD><TITLE>Ruben Safir Coins Collection and Information</TITLE></HEAD> <BODY BACKGROUND="#FFFFFF" TEXT="#3333FF" LINK="#00AA00"> <CENTER> <H2> <A HREF="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/halfs/columbian_obverse.png"> <IMG SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/halfs/columbian_obverse_sm.png" ALIGN="MIDDLE" width=150 height=149></A> Coin Collecting at the Safir House <A HREF="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/halfs/columbia_reverse.png"> <IMG SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/halfs/columbia_reverse_sm.png" ALIGN="MIDDLE" width=150 height=147></A> </H2> </CENTER> [+ localtime +] <HR> <IMG ALT="Schmuel-Leib Eliezar checking out his coins" TITLE="Schmuel-Leib Checking his Coins" SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/purim_2006/schmuel2_cons.jpg" ALIGN="LEFT" BORDER="5"> At the Safir home everyone collects coins, although some are more enthusiastic about it than others. Things started with gifts of the American Silver Eagle series from the US mint, and like many things, might have gotten out of hand a little. Between the love of the camera and the love of coins, our family can spend hours looking, photographing and chating about coins with friends.<P> For anyone interested in talking 'Coins' on the net, take a look at <A HREF="http://www.cointalk.org">Coin Talk</A> where we have fun posting pictures of our new coins and talking shop. There are some great experts there and we always ask on the forum before making purchases because their opinions are always dead on. <P> <H3>We held a contest on Cointalk and had Great Results</H3> Here is a list of Coin Exhibit Entrees for the contest from around the Gobe and <A HREF="http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/coins/contest.html">the votes. Check them out. They are great</A> <P> In addition to Coin Talk there is the publication <A HREF="http://www.coinworld.com/">Coin World</A> which can be subscribed to. It is a weekly newspaper type of publication with good information and lots of advertisments. <P> On the Intenet there is also <A HREF="http://www.coinfacts.com/">Coin Facts</A> which largely lists every known US Coin type as well <A HREF="http://coins.heritageauctions.com/">Heritage Auctions</A> which is a good place to buy coins online, especially for beginners. Heritage has the best pictures and the best selling history on coins, greatly reducing the chances of buying either a fake coin or over paying because of ignorance. Heritage even has software to help you keep track of your coins. It is a great resource. <P> A word about Ebay. Unless your an expert, don't make any purchases of coins from Ebay without asking folks on cointalk for an opinion first. You can loose ytour shirt otherwise. The scams with coins on ebay are famous amongst collectors on Cointalk, so listen and learn before plunging into the market.<P> Finally, if you find some old coins that you think might be worth something, <B>NEVER NEVER NEVER DIP, POLISH OR CLEAN THE COINS</B>. You will destroy the value of the coins like that. They are not silverware, they are historical peices. Polishing is a major no no as it destroys the coins original surface.<P> <IMG ALT="Itka Shira Safir checking out her coins" TITLE="Itka Shira Safir Checking out her Coins" SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/purim_2006/itka_2_cons.jpg" ALIGN="RIGHT" BORDER="5"> If you live in New York, like Ruben Safir and his family does, you can take advantage of a few resources like <A HREF="http://www.nyinc.info/">The New York International Numismatic Convention</A> which focuses on foriegn and anceint coins. the show is going to be on January 12-14th and the Waldof Astoria Hotel in 2007. We hope to go with the kids and take some pictures. Also <A HREF="http://www.numismatics.org/">The American Numismastic Society</A> is located on Fulton and William Streets in the Financial District just west of South Street Sea Port. And if you need a good dealer in Brooklyn, try Pace Coins, Ralf Pfali ANA-LM and Howard Lebowitz.<P> Pace Coins<BR> 1-718-627-0340<BR> 2109 East 19th Street (Avenue U)<BR> Brooklyn, USA 11229 <P> Just because all this is so much fun, I thought that I would post some pictures of what we look like as we work on this website, including the equiptment that we are using. In general, we do things on the cheap using a Sony Cybershot digital camera for the photo's and like all other software we use, we use the <a HREF="http://www.gimp.org">The Gimp</A> for the photo editing<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/01142009/newcoins.jpg" BORDER="4"><BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/nycoinshow/shani_bear.jpg" BORDER="4"><BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/01042009/coin_talk_work_station_sm.jpg" BORDER="4"><BR> [- Execute ('coins/menu.html') -] </BODY> </HTML> [/CODE] The most important thing for your first website is KISS KISS KISS - Keep it SIMPLE stupid. HTML was designed to be simple and accessible to all. As time moved on, publishing houses pressured the W3C, who sets standards for the web, to increasingly complicate it. Believe me, with a large enough collection, there is plenty of things to figure out aside from why a version of CSS DIV attributes unpredictably works differently on 3 different platforms, 2 of them rendering virtually under readable. Learn basic HTML.[/QUOTE]
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