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you should get a complier No OS should be without a compiler.


http://www.mingw.org/

http://sourceware.org/cygwin/

http://gcc.gnu.org/

 

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Looks good. organize, clean and the code is clean.

 

Glad you said that. I would but I'm usually critized for such things.
And I am glad so many are helping him. I have no idea of what most are saying.

 

I'm still using Solitare. Free Cell is almost to much for me at my age. If I tried to download something I think my entire computer would laugh at me.

 

Using HTML to set up one's website is a good way to learn about HTML.

 

This brings up a really good point. I think Peter should put up another rule on the forum for just this reason.....
along with no Politics and No Religein he should also have a rule about asking about the best software to use for a certain function, because, if you have 100 people answer the question, you will more then likely come close to 100 different answers, and each person will defend their choice to the death.


Dave

 

which would assume all software answers are equal, which they are not.

Ruben

 

This is simply not true...dreamweaver saves in HTML, no proprietary extension, same with frontpage and most other code generators..HTML pages saved in dreamweaver can be opened in any word program....they are still just HTML like any other. No need to make things up if you are not aware of what the programs do.

and again...It is simply absurd and untrue to say one must learn HTML. It is understandable if one doesnt want to bother with that...many people do not want to learn coding, they just want to get their coins up on the web, make it look nice, etc...One simply does NOT have to learn HTML to put together a nice (attractive) website...I just want it clear for someone who has never done it before that they KNOW they do not have to learn HTML to get a website up quick and looking nice...this is just what he THINKS people should do. You dont have to know one bit of HTML to generate a webpage in something like dreamweaver and other code generators...then as you work on pages you might end up learning it anyway as dreamweaver shows you the code as it generates it.

Also, Speedy said something about needing to be able to load something on the server? you dont have to do anything like that either if its just a basic website with HTML pages...dreamweaver and frontpage save out as HTML and you simply upload it to the server like you would any other HTML page...I have never encountered a server that did not accept HTML pages generated by any code generating program like dreamweaver.

So my final advice would be...learn HTML if you like...our like said before...search around for a good HTML code generator that works for you and go at it. Good luck with the site however you end up putting it together and sorry to have been a party to derailing the thread.

 

Sorry, but that isn't true. I've see too many websites written by DW or Frontpage that have "extra" junk in with the HTML that it writes. It makes it very hard, if not impossible, to edit or change without the program.
There are some editors out there that don't add the extra junk, but they are few and far between.

I was refering to stuff like Wordpress, most CMS's, and other such programs. Those all have backend suff that runs on the server. If the hosting company doesn't offer "free" setup of those programs, then it is up to you to learn how.

Speedy

 

dreamweaver saves in HTML, no proprietary extension, same with frontpage and most other code generators.

well, extra junk in the HTML is not a proprietary extension...its extra junk in the HTML. Dreamweaver saves files in HTML...there is no such thing as a Dreamweaver file extension. So sorry, it IS true that dreamweaver does not have proprietary extension. (it only has .dwt which is a template file if you CHOOSE to use it)

As for any extra junk it puts in, there is a code window along with graphical interface...all you need do is delete any extra code you dont want (mainly it just puts some info in the head.)...it is not at all hard to get rid of if you were so inclined...you can open it in a text editor and delete it as well.

For a person who doesnt care to learn HTML and just wants to put his coins up quickly and easily...I dont think that person will care if Dreamweaver put a few lines of extra code in there as long as the page displays the way it should and looks good. Most people who go to a site aren't looking at the code and couldn't care less if there is an extra line or two, they are there to look at the site displayed, not the code...if a person choses to learn HTML there IS a learning curve that is far more than learning DW...and then he will get a site that is maybe some text, text links and some images...while DW will allow them to acheive much more features that would require more advanced code...

I think some web developers need to worry a little less about if there is an extra line of code here and there, or how other approach web development, and learn to design a real website that goes a bit beyond some text, text links and big pictures thrown on the page willy nilly

Dont get me wrong, I agree that if you are going to be a web developer...the best way to go about it is to do as I have done and learn HTML. But I also know there are people out there who want to put up well designed, nice looking website, they dont want to become a web developer, they dont want to learn HTML, they dont care about the mechanisms of web authoring...they are interested only in getting their content up the easiest and fastest way they can find without having to learn how to program anything...and thats understandable.

I dont think the OP wanted this thread to be a place for people to bicker about how one should go about it but rather offer advice which he can take or leave....I offer advice with the full knowledge there are other ways to go about it...nuff said.

 

Sorry Drusus

I've read many technology opinions from you, mostly defending some sort of proprietary format, software or company, mostly based on fiction and misconceptions fed to you buy sales sheets and filled with marketing jargon, but this post on your part clearly puts you into the realm of proven ignorance about even the most fundamental aspects of computer literacy. You are missing a basic background in computer literacy and make statements that not valid or factual.

First of all, after reading your post, I think its quite clear that you do not know what the W3C's standards for internet communications are, that is the standards which every web browser must comply with. Secondly, I don't think you have the field experience to know just how screwed up Dream Weaver's output is on any browser not called “Microsoft Internet Explorer”. I've never seen anyone ever claim that Dream Weaver doesn't throw in a truck full of HTML non-standardized extensions. I don't think that you can recognize which extensions Internet Explorer has which are not standard under any HTML or XHTML standard even including the proposed HTML 4.0 which was never even approved.

The statement that any “Word” could open up any Dream Weaver output and render is so circular of an argument and observation to be laughable. Word can't even open up their own files, but why on earth would that be any kind of test that Dream Weaver creates files according to standard is frankly bizarre. Word is a Word Processor. Unless Microsoft is violating the GPL again and slipped a GECKO engine into Word, how it opens up and translates and HTML document is completely random and done for the conveniences of Word Processing not HTML creation or rendering.

And then you lectured about how if Dream Weaver does put that non-standardized claptrap into your web pages, nobody will care. And then you make some off the cuff remark about how people using HTML in a plain editor somehow create outputs that just look time they are throwing things on a website in a disorderly fashion.

Huh? Can you be further out in right field?

Every page on About.Com is constructed, at least when I worked there, with HTML::Templates, with the templates created by the design team in XEMACS. Ditto with the templates for the NY Times, and the construction for that matter of Coin Talk. Does Cointalk look like a bunch of disorganized things?

Then you say that if the users doesn't want to learn HTML he can “design” his sight with Dream Weaver? Oh yeah? It won't take long before the overhead of the spaghetti code that Dream Weaver creates will be completely unmaintainable. Meanwhile you'll deny the user of ever having the option of later adding any kind of server side templating to help organize his stuff and rapidly adding coins and removing coins will make this all but desired within a short period of time. The other day I added 68 coins and over 200 photo's to my site in under 2 hours, with text. There is no chance of doing that with Dream Weaver. So until you actually gain some basic grasp of the concepts being discussed here, maybe it would be beneficial to you to refrain from making so many incorrect statements, at least until you have a solid foundation in the material being discussed.

 

Not on any server I'd put material on unless I wanted to wake up one day and find all my material gone and everything replace with material from bigbouncingirls.com

I do have a macro on GVIM that runs a secure SSH/OPENSSL socket to my server with an F12 and then runs CVS and puts my revisions on through CVS command. I guess I don't feel like waking up one day and finding everything screwed up because one of my clients decided to hit a freshing minted 2 year art student with Front Page.

Been there one. It will not happen again.


Ruben

 

You know what, that is not even true most of the time because more often than not I just edit my stuff right on the server with SSH and X11R6 and use revision control.

Ruben

 

Baloney.

 

Good point....

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