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<p>[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 765066, member: 57463"]<b>History You Can Hold in Your Hand</b></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>See Post #38 from Just Carl.</b> </p><p><br /></p><p>We are talking about two different things. </p><p><br /></p><p>You can buy and sell and make money, if buying and selling is what you love to do. We all do that to some extent. We all try to maximize our outcomes. </p><p><br /></p><p>If you want to be a numismatic daytrader -- a coin dealer -- then welcome! If you are honest and upright, other dealers will help you get started because the good ones know the value in a community of rational traders.</p><p><br /></p><p>After that, though, for many people, this is something different.</p><p><br /></p><p>Back to Just Carl. When I was in college for the third or fourth time, I learned a lot of aerodynamics by building model rockets. Even if they did not crash, they still cost money to launch, and time to build, and there is not much market in pre-built rockets. Everyone wants to build their own. (There is some market in model flying aircraft...)</p><p><br /></p><p>So, too, here. I am not much of a collector, but when I started, I pursued ancient Greek coins, worth about a day's wages, from the towns and times of famous philosophers. I wanted to make sure that if the coin was from Abdera, it had a likelihood that Democritus spent it. Think of that. I had a run from Thales of Miletus to Hypatia of Alexandria. Along the way, I discovered many people and many ideas. </p><p><br /></p><p>You talk about the stock market. I have stock certificates from the great names of the previous generation: Merrill Lynch; Paine Webber; from the days before Shearson met Lehman and Kidder met Peabody. Some companies are gone -- US Steel -- and others have changed -- Boston Edison; Detroit Edison. </p><p><br /></p><p>You must know that the commercial insitutions of our global society are troubled. Do you know why? Everyone has an opinion. I have facts. Have you ever read the TERMS OF AGREEMENT on a stock certificate? Do you know what you really bought and what its legal status is? </p><p><br /></p><p>What is money? I have beads and shells. </p><p><br /></p><p>Money is an artifact of culture. In Jane Austen, the girls play whist for fish. They do not have piles of carp on the carpet.</p><p><br /></p><p>How much is all that knowledge worth? Worth to whom? And for what? </p><p><br /></p><p>I buy a Roman coin issued by Marcus Aurelius and I have his <i>Medititions</i> in a Greek/English edition and to me, he is Sir Alec Guiness out there on the Pannonian Frontier facing Germans in the dead of Winter, and a decade later, Sir Alec is Obi Wan Kinobi out there on Tatooine facing different stormtroopers while philosophizing. But you know... the next person who buys the coin might only care that the reverse celebrates Concordia. </p><p><br /></p><p>What they are worth to the next person is not predictable.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 765066, member: 57463"][b]History You Can Hold in Your Hand[/b] [B]See Post #38 from Just Carl.[/B] We are talking about two different things. You can buy and sell and make money, if buying and selling is what you love to do. We all do that to some extent. We all try to maximize our outcomes. If you want to be a numismatic daytrader -- a coin dealer -- then welcome! If you are honest and upright, other dealers will help you get started because the good ones know the value in a community of rational traders. After that, though, for many people, this is something different. Back to Just Carl. When I was in college for the third or fourth time, I learned a lot of aerodynamics by building model rockets. Even if they did not crash, they still cost money to launch, and time to build, and there is not much market in pre-built rockets. Everyone wants to build their own. (There is some market in model flying aircraft...) So, too, here. I am not much of a collector, but when I started, I pursued ancient Greek coins, worth about a day's wages, from the towns and times of famous philosophers. I wanted to make sure that if the coin was from Abdera, it had a likelihood that Democritus spent it. Think of that. I had a run from Thales of Miletus to Hypatia of Alexandria. Along the way, I discovered many people and many ideas. You talk about the stock market. I have stock certificates from the great names of the previous generation: Merrill Lynch; Paine Webber; from the days before Shearson met Lehman and Kidder met Peabody. Some companies are gone -- US Steel -- and others have changed -- Boston Edison; Detroit Edison. You must know that the commercial insitutions of our global society are troubled. Do you know why? Everyone has an opinion. I have facts. Have you ever read the TERMS OF AGREEMENT on a stock certificate? Do you know what you really bought and what its legal status is? What is money? I have beads and shells. Money is an artifact of culture. In Jane Austen, the girls play whist for fish. They do not have piles of carp on the carpet. How much is all that knowledge worth? Worth to whom? And for what? I buy a Roman coin issued by Marcus Aurelius and I have his [I]Medititions[/I] in a Greek/English edition and to me, he is Sir Alec Guiness out there on the Pannonian Frontier facing Germans in the dead of Winter, and a decade later, Sir Alec is Obi Wan Kinobi out there on Tatooine facing different stormtroopers while philosophizing. But you know... the next person who buys the coin might only care that the reverse celebrates Concordia. What they are worth to the next person is not predictable.[/QUOTE]
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