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<p>[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2605024, member: 1892"]Given that there is no universally-accepted definition for a 70, it's easy to agree that all that's required to designate one is the particular standard the grader holds to. That, though, also means that one doesn't have to hold to the same standard as the grader did....</p><p><br /></p><p>Let us stipulate that "perfection" in a coin isn't possible, because <i>the designer never specified what constitutes it and the Mint cannot produce it anyway</i>. The former *might* be arguable in the sense that any deviation from the lines in the designer's final execution of the product constitute "imperfection," but it's a given that the designer would factor production realities into the design and plan for some deviation. Meaning, he/she didn't specify "perfection." <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>And those production realities inevitably include some slight variation between dies, even if that only means the microscopic amount of wear added to the hub from the previous die press, or some slight difference in pressure when the die is hubbed. One must further factor the inevitable die lines deep in the recesses of the design, some of which are major players in the attribution of the Morgans I love. Is their presence a disqualification for a 70?</p><p><br /></p><p>So, when I personally contemplate a 70 I'm holding to the strictest-<b>possible</b> definition of the term, well aware that sheer perfection isn't happening since it isn't defined. Which, in my case, means anything leaving doubt in my mind whether it was a deliberate design feature - or an absolutely inevitable artifact of the die creation process - doesn't count. You can find <i>anything</i> if you look hard enough.</p><p><br /></p><p>So in truth, Mike, I think we're closer to agreement than not. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2605024, member: 1892"]Given that there is no universally-accepted definition for a 70, it's easy to agree that all that's required to designate one is the particular standard the grader holds to. That, though, also means that one doesn't have to hold to the same standard as the grader did.... Let us stipulate that "perfection" in a coin isn't possible, because [I]the designer never specified what constitutes it and the Mint cannot produce it anyway[/I]. The former *might* be arguable in the sense that any deviation from the lines in the designer's final execution of the product constitute "imperfection," but it's a given that the designer would factor production realities into the design and plan for some deviation. Meaning, he/she didn't specify "perfection." :) And those production realities inevitably include some slight variation between dies, even if that only means the microscopic amount of wear added to the hub from the previous die press, or some slight difference in pressure when the die is hubbed. One must further factor the inevitable die lines deep in the recesses of the design, some of which are major players in the attribution of the Morgans I love. Is their presence a disqualification for a 70? So, when I personally contemplate a 70 I'm holding to the strictest-[B]possible[/B] definition of the term, well aware that sheer perfection isn't happening since it isn't defined. Which, in my case, means anything leaving doubt in my mind whether it was a deliberate design feature - or an absolutely inevitable artifact of the die creation process - doesn't count. You can find [I]anything[/I] if you look hard enough. So in truth, Mike, I think we're closer to agreement than not. :)[/QUOTE]
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