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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 1611217, member: 66&quot;]Jules actually does have something like 50 years in the coin business.&nbsp; Did anyone else recognize the name?&nbsp; I did.&nbsp; he is one of the dealers who used to runs one of those multi-page ads every week in the first few pages of Coin World and has a reputation for shipping cleaned AU slider Morgans out as Brilliant Uncirculated.&nbsp; Much of the material he sold was raw and for a reason.&nbsp; As far as being &quot;one of the original members of PCGS, he probably means one of the first authorized dealer members from back in 1986/87.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think he is claiming to be a founder.&nbsp; I am surprised though that he didn&#039;t remember what the acronym stood for.</p><p><br /></p><p>Frankly the judge made the right decision in the case.&nbsp; The plaintiff had no evidence of fraud or even misrepresentation.&nbsp; She had no evidence of what grade he claimed it was, no evidence that he made any representation that it was original, or not messed with, or that it would be gradable.&nbsp; All she had was a low buy offer, and a fax cover sheet with a note written on it that the coin had been chloroxed (a term I have heard before).&nbsp; As the judge pointed out there was no identification other than a first name as to who the note was from and no references as to qualifications.</p><p><br /></p><p>The woman says she is in real estate and she saw that bullion had out performed real estate so she was trying to have some money in both to protect herself.&nbsp; I hate to tell here this but a 1795 dollar is not &quot;bullion&quot;.&nbsp; She saw that one thing was outperforming real estate so she bought something else.&nbsp; She says she contacted him and asked for a 1795 dollar.&nbsp; He didn&#039;t have one but he got one and apparently told her it will be $X.&nbsp; She said fine, bought it, and seemingly made not effort to investigate it for year until she tried to sell it.&nbsp; (Some people here have mentioned four years.&nbsp; I do not know when this episode aired but she says she bought the coin in 2005.)&nbsp; If she had brought in something from Jules where he had even specified a grade it might have helped her case a little, but unless he made the statement that it was original or unaltered she would have a hard time making a fraud charge stick.&nbsp; She also has a problem confusing altered and not authentic.&nbsp; That hurt her case as well because she said it was not authentic and it is, it just isn&#039;t original.&nbsp; This was just a case of some one who didn&#039;t know what they were doing making a bad/uninformed buy and now wanting to not take responsibility for it.&nbsp; (As for the comment about who would pay $5,000 for a raw coin, there are two kinds of people who would.&nbsp; Those who have no idea what they are doing, and those who KNOW what they are doing.)</p><p><br /></p><p>And as for the folk criticizing him for letting the door swing closed on the woman in the wheelchair,&nbsp; Do you stop and check every time you go through a door to make sure there isn&#039;t a person in a wheelchair following in behind you?&nbsp; I don&#039;t.&nbsp; I push the door open, walk through, and let go of the door.&nbsp; Now if I HAPPEN to notice there is someone coming in behind me (wheelchair or not) I will tend to hold the door.&nbsp; Everyone seems to be assuming he did it deliberately.&nbsp; He never looked behind himself so I would assme he didn&#039;t know she was following him in.&nbsp; I see nothing inappropriate in his actions there.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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