People pay waaaaay to much

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by rooman9, Jan 15, 2016.

  1. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    One of the last coins I need for my penny collection is the 1925. I saw this one and I decided to put in a low bid. After all it looks cleaned, the photos aren't that good and I felt like the seller was questionable. And look what it went for!
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1925-Bronze...f%2FbkHIr1Wc5R6r5JK8g%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

    Here are some other completed listings that are more reasonable.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Australia-1...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    And here is a completed collection for cheaper than the cleaned coin
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Australian-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    I don't understand why this one went for so much!
     
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  3. Pi man

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  4. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    The first coin is a fake, being sold by one of many accounts from the same Chinese distributor selling various types of fakes and using shill bidders to get high prices.
     
  5. gibsport

    gibsport Active Member

    I put a vg 1937 P Buffalo Nickel on a local facebook auction site. Starting bids are 1 dollar with 1 dollar increments. I was thinking if someone wants to give me a buck for it...great. It sold for $5.
     
  6. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Facebook has auctions? news to me :) do tell
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    There's another one that's better waiting for you out there somewhere, someday. :)
     
  8. techwriter

    techwriter Well-Known Member

    Well, as my Dad used to say: "a fool and his money are soon separated". And there are those who get caught up in "auction fever" (bidiots as PiMan said) and the $$$ just get higher.
     
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  9. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    I always forget about shill bidding. Makes me sick that ebay doesn't do more to stop it. Well it gives them more money so why would they care.
     
  10. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    The big problem here is that the coin in question is a modern counterfeit
     
  11. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    I figured it was a counterfeit. It's pretty obvious. But I figured if I won it for cheap I could get my money back and take the coin off the market. But I can't throw that much at a fake.
     
  12. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Don't worry about taking it off the market. There are thousands of them
     
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  13. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Can we see it?
     
  14. gibsport

    gibsport Active Member

    SORRY, I don't still have the pic. It was simply a guy who saw it, wanted it for a child, and had no idea of it's worth. Absolutely not a cherrypick coin.
     
  15. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Okay, thanks!
     
  16. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    And then you see random inexplicable deals. I bought an Italian coin with a book value of more than $20 for $5 recently and no one else bid on it.
     
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  17. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    Exactly! I guess that's why it pays to be patient.
     
  18. techwriter

    techwriter Well-Known Member

    Hiddendragon said:
    Done this more than once; just takes patience as rooman9 said.
     
  19. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    One of the possible advantage is because the seller is in the US. Some buyers in the US would prefer to buy locally simply due to custom trouble and if something goes wrong - you are more likely to be covered much quicker than a seller that deals overseas.

    A quick look at the seller does reveal very disturbing trend of selling popular counterfeits that should not sell more than metal content.
     
  20. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    Can you explain how you can tell? I'd like to get one of these someday and would like to be able to spot a fake.
     
  21. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    I like Ebay but it's minefield with all the shill bidding and fake coins. You gotta be very careful on there.
     
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