I've went thru ALOT of boxes of pennies and have never found either of these coins...until today. They're heavily circulated and not in ideal shape,I know. Cool finds tho... _
Nice finds!! It looks like the date on the 1909 took a couple light hits and I don't see clear evidence of a clash...but check your coin to see if there are markers - http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1909&die_id=1909p1do002&die_state=mds