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<p>[QUOTE="Jral1, post: 1796073, member: 32252"]ok buts there is more to it then that i would think...</p><p> </p><p>It just doesnt make senxe that an image on two hardened metal surfaces could transfer any design element by squeezing a softer metel blank slug/planchet no matter how much ware there was..</p><p>you might think that when the coin is being pressed it warms up quickly and then when it cools it cools from the edge inward and the metal shrinks a little on the field and reverse first because there is less mass on that side so it cools faster around the area of the larger device/design and it cools slower in the bulge of the dominate device on the obverse creating some kind of thermal effect tranposing a bit of the design feature through the intire coin because the largest device cools slower in that area and shinks less. maybe this happens after a long run where the die's even get hot themselfs along with the collar transfering more heat making this effect more predominate at that point. ie extreme ware lots of friction plus heat BINGO maybe its some kind of themal dynamic effect. I bet the first coin pressed in a run comes out warm and the last one after a long run ends up really hot. have you ever seen those survival fire starters where you just slam a plunger into a cilinder and it spontaniously egnites cotton or what ever. Maybe some of these effects are what you say but maybe there are more complex answers like this one wich is actually pretty simple when you think about it. maybe you are right and im not saying it doesnt happen as you said but it just didnt make sense to me maybe there is more then one way this happens though and this could be one way. cause i see this effect alot in coins but never thought much of it .</p><p>anyways are theses concidered error coins or are they just some kind of transitional image effect ,thermal dynamic effect or just a case of pareidolia. Also do they have a premium of any kind?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jral1, post: 1796073, member: 32252"]ok buts there is more to it then that i would think... It just doesnt make senxe that an image on two hardened metal surfaces could transfer any design element by squeezing a softer metel blank slug/planchet no matter how much ware there was.. you might think that when the coin is being pressed it warms up quickly and then when it cools it cools from the edge inward and the metal shrinks a little on the field and reverse first because there is less mass on that side so it cools faster around the area of the larger device/design and it cools slower in the bulge of the dominate device on the obverse creating some kind of thermal effect tranposing a bit of the design feature through the intire coin because the largest device cools slower in that area and shinks less. maybe this happens after a long run where the die's even get hot themselfs along with the collar transfering more heat making this effect more predominate at that point. ie extreme ware lots of friction plus heat BINGO maybe its some kind of themal dynamic effect. I bet the first coin pressed in a run comes out warm and the last one after a long run ends up really hot. have you ever seen those survival fire starters where you just slam a plunger into a cilinder and it spontaniously egnites cotton or what ever. Maybe some of these effects are what you say but maybe there are more complex answers like this one wich is actually pretty simple when you think about it. maybe you are right and im not saying it doesnt happen as you said but it just didnt make sense to me maybe there is more then one way this happens though and this could be one way. cause i see this effect alot in coins but never thought much of it . anyways are theses concidered error coins or are they just some kind of transitional image effect ,thermal dynamic effect or just a case of pareidolia. Also do they have a premium of any kind?[/QUOTE]
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