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<p>[QUOTE="H8_modern, post: 8004021, member: 28531"]These rounds have an interesting history and I think they’re really cool. I’ve borrowed the following from So-calleddollars.com since it’s short but comprehensive.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="5"><b>PEDLEY-RYAN DOLLARS</b></font></p><p><font size="5"><b>1933</b></font></p><p>Pedley-Ryan & Co., Denver investment house, in order to provide a convenient medium for speculation in silver and to increase the use and popularity of silver as a medium of exchange, started a "Buy-an-Ounce-of-Silver" campaign Jan. 5, 1933. Silver at that time was in very limited demand, bar silver being quoted at 27 cents an ounce. Up to that time, the minimum amount of silver traded in on the big markets for actual delivery was 25,000 ounces, and this amount had been sold only since summer 1932.</p><p><br /></p><p>On Jan. 5, Pedley-Ryan began its sale of round, rimless, plain-edge discs. Size of a standard U.S. dollar, they contained one ounce of silver, 430 grains 99% fine. The slugs were sold three for a dollar and Pedley-Ryan was to redeem them at prevailing market prices of silver. It was believed that thousands of investors throughout the country would purchase the "dollars" and would realize large profits when silver reached the 16 to 1 ratio hoped for by the silver bloc. Silver mining interests in Colorado and elsewhere would, in the meantime, benefit from an increased market for silver.</p><p><br /></p><p>The campaign, which enabled even the smallest investor to speculate, ended in late summer. Sales had not reached anticipated goals. After that, Pedley-Ryan (later known as the Cow Gulch Oil Co.) sold bars of 1,000 ounces only.</p><p><br /></p><p>Planchets for the pieces were made for Pedley-Ryan by the Sachs-Lawlor Co., Denver, the silver being obtained from the Denver Mint in 100-plus ounce bars. The discs were stamped by a girl in the Pedley-Ryan office. All have plain edge. First five types sold by Pedley-Ryan were stamped or punched (incuse) while Type VII was embossed. <i>Types V and VI, incuse, are not listed in Kenney.</i></p><p><br /></p><p>In <i>An Inside View of the Coin Hobby in the 1930s: The Walter P. Nichols File</i>, Q. David Bowers reproduces a series of postcards to Nichols from Ernest Cerny of Denver in March and April, 1933. Cerny describes Nos. 822 and 824 as difficult to find, but available for sale at $2.50 and $2.00 respectively. No. 825 is described as common, available at 3 for $1.25. He implies that those were the only three types he knew had been produced. Cerny states that 87 pieces were stuck of No. 824, a figure that is slightly different from the 85 mintage listed below. Since Cerny does not mention No. 823 at all, it is possible that his mintage figure includes specimens of both Nos. 823 and 824.</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="4"><b>TYPE I</b></font></p><p>Only 60 issued, all on Jan. 5, 1933.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK822_obvDH.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK822_revDH.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Photos courtesy of Dave Hayes</p><p><b>Obv.</b> <i>Pedley-Ryan</i> & <i>Co. • Denver</i></p><p><b>Rev.</b> <i>Pedley-Ryan</i> & <i>Co. • Denver</i> [same as obverse].</p><p><br /></p><p><u>HK-822</u> Silver. 38mm.</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="4"><b>TYPE II</b></font></p><p>Only 15 issued, all on Jan. 6, 1933. This variety was withdrawn when it was discovered that an error, 90% instead of 99% <i>Fine,</i>had been made. The word <i>Fine</i> was chiseled out and the altered die was used to strike additional pieces (Type III) for the silver movement boosters present at the striking.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK823_obvJD.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK823_revJD.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Photos courtesy of John Dean</p><p><b>Obv.</b> <i>Pedley-Ryan & Co.</i> / <i>Denver</i></p><p><b>Rev.</b> <i>One Ounce</i> / <i>Silver</i> / <i>90% Fine</i></p><p><br /></p><p><u>HK-823</u> Silver. 38mm.</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="4"><b>TYPE III</b></font></p><p>Fewer than 85 pieces were struck, all on Jan. 6, 1933. See Type II above.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK824_obvJD.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK824_revJD.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Photos courtesy of John Dean</p><p><b>Obv.</b> <i>Pedley-Ryan & Co.</i> / <i>Denver</i></p><p><b>Rev.</b> <i>One Ounce</i> / <i>Silver</i> / <i>90%</i></p><p><br /></p><p><u>HK-824</u> Silver. 38mm.</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="4"><b>TYPE IV</b></font></p><p>Not more than 500 issued, beginning Jan. 7, 1933. Pedley-Ryan expressed hope this would be "the last and final variety." Complaints developed, however, that some motorists were using the slugs in lieu of silver dollars at automatic filling stations. A further change then was made, both as to size and type (Type VII). It was reported previously that only "50 made" of this Type IV; obviously an error.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK825_obvTH.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK825_revTH.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Photos courtesy of Tom Hoffman</p><p><b>Obv.</b> <i>Pedley-Ryan & Co.</i> / <i>Denver</i></p><p><b>Rev.</b> <i>1933</i> / <i>Silver</i> / <i>430 Grains</i></p><p><br /></p><p><u>HK-825</u> Silver. 38mm.</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="4"><b>TYPE V</b></font></p><p>This is the same as Type IV except that word <i>Denver</i> was omitted on obverse. Apparently obverse die was cut incorrectly and error was discovered after only a few Type V were struck.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Obv.</b> <i>Pedley-Ryan & Co.</i></p><p><b>Rev.</b> <i>1933</i> / <i>Silver</i> / <i>430</i> Grains</p><p><br /></p><p><u>HK-826</u> Silver. 38mm.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK826_obvJD.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK826_revJD.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Photos courtesy of John Dean</p><p><font size="4"><b>TYPE VI</b></font></p><p>Bertram Robbins and his son Bertram Robbins, Jr., operators of a men's clothing store in Colorado Springs, bought 300 discs (Type IV) from Pedley-Ryan & Co. in Denver at bullion value. One Saturday morning in 1933, Bertram, Jr., seated in a store display window, used a punch-type die to make an impression <i>Robbins on the Corner</i> above <i>Pedley-Ryan & Co.</i> (In a few instances, the impression was made below <i>Pedley-Ryan & Co.</i>) With each purchase in the store, a customer could buy one of the discs for $1. All 300 pieces were sold that day. Kappen-Mitchell, <i>Depression Scrip of the United States</i>, Colo. No. 5.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK827_obvHG.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK827_revHG.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Photos courtesy of Heritage Galleries (HA.com)</p><p><b>Obv.</b> <i>Robbins</i> / <i>on the</i> / <i>Corner</i> / <i>Pedley-Ryan & Co.</i> / <i>Denver</i>. The word Robbins is curved; remaining lines, straight.</p><p><b>Rev.</b> <i>1933</i> / <i>Silver</i> / <i>430 grains</i></p><p><br /></p><p><u>HK-827</u> Silver. 38mm.</p><p><u>HK-827a</u> Same as above but <i>Robbins</i> / <i>on the</i> / <i>Corner</i> is below <i>Pedley-Ryan & Co.</i> / <i>Denver</i>.</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="4"><b>TYPE VII</b></font></p><p>This is the only embossed Pedley-Ryan; only 50 issued, beginning in June 1933.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK828_obvHG.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK828_revHG.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Photos courtesy of Heritage Galleries (HA.com)</p><p><b>Obv.</b> Legend around, <i>One Troy Ounce 999 Fine Silver</i>; below, <i>*** 1933 ***</i>. Across frosted center, within circle, <i>480</i> / <i>Grains</i> / <i>999 Fine</i> / scroll / <i>Pedley-Ryan</i> / <i>& Co.</i> / <i>Denver, Colo.</i></p><p><b>Rev.</b> Across frosted center, within circle, <i>Bimetalism</i> / <i>16-1</i> / <i>Means Value</i> / <i>of This Token</i> / <i>Would be</i> / <i>$1.29</i>; legend around, <i>* Silver the Key to Prosperity *</i>; below, <i>The World Over</i></p><p><br /></p><p><u>HK-828</u> Silver. 40mm.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is my recent purchase which I probably over paid for but I really wanted a type 3 since there is a small number of them and I know that it was struck on 6 January 1933.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1388569[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1388570[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I bought it from a dealer in Colorado assuming that it was out of a local collection.</p><p><br /></p><p>Please post any that you might have or feel free to tell me I’m foolish for paying a premium for a private round like this.</p><p><br /></p><p>Jim[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="H8_modern, post: 8004021, member: 28531"]These rounds have an interesting history and I think they’re really cool. I’ve borrowed the following from So-calleddollars.com since it’s short but comprehensive. [SIZE=5][B]PEDLEY-RYAN DOLLARS 1933[/B][/SIZE] Pedley-Ryan & Co., Denver investment house, in order to provide a convenient medium for speculation in silver and to increase the use and popularity of silver as a medium of exchange, started a "Buy-an-Ounce-of-Silver" campaign Jan. 5, 1933. Silver at that time was in very limited demand, bar silver being quoted at 27 cents an ounce. Up to that time, the minimum amount of silver traded in on the big markets for actual delivery was 25,000 ounces, and this amount had been sold only since summer 1932. On Jan. 5, Pedley-Ryan began its sale of round, rimless, plain-edge discs. Size of a standard U.S. dollar, they contained one ounce of silver, 430 grains 99% fine. The slugs were sold three for a dollar and Pedley-Ryan was to redeem them at prevailing market prices of silver. It was believed that thousands of investors throughout the country would purchase the "dollars" and would realize large profits when silver reached the 16 to 1 ratio hoped for by the silver bloc. Silver mining interests in Colorado and elsewhere would, in the meantime, benefit from an increased market for silver. The campaign, which enabled even the smallest investor to speculate, ended in late summer. Sales had not reached anticipated goals. After that, Pedley-Ryan (later known as the Cow Gulch Oil Co.) sold bars of 1,000 ounces only. Planchets for the pieces were made for Pedley-Ryan by the Sachs-Lawlor Co., Denver, the silver being obtained from the Denver Mint in 100-plus ounce bars. The discs were stamped by a girl in the Pedley-Ryan office. All have plain edge. First five types sold by Pedley-Ryan were stamped or punched (incuse) while Type VII was embossed. [I]Types V and VI, incuse, are not listed in Kenney.[/I] In [I]An Inside View of the Coin Hobby in the 1930s: The Walter P. Nichols File[/I], Q. David Bowers reproduces a series of postcards to Nichols from Ernest Cerny of Denver in March and April, 1933. Cerny describes Nos. 822 and 824 as difficult to find, but available for sale at $2.50 and $2.00 respectively. No. 825 is described as common, available at 3 for $1.25. He implies that those were the only three types he knew had been produced. Cerny states that 87 pieces were stuck of No. 824, a figure that is slightly different from the 85 mintage listed below. Since Cerny does not mention No. 823 at all, it is possible that his mintage figure includes specimens of both Nos. 823 and 824. [SIZE=4][B]TYPE I[/B][/SIZE] Only 60 issued, all on Jan. 5, 1933. [IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK822_obvDH.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK822_revDH.jpg[/IMG] Photos courtesy of Dave Hayes [B]Obv.[/B] [I]Pedley-Ryan[/I] & [I]Co. • Denver[/I] [B]Rev.[/B] [I]Pedley-Ryan[/I] & [I]Co. • Denver[/I] [same as obverse]. [U]HK-822[/U] Silver. 38mm. [SIZE=4][B]TYPE II[/B][/SIZE] Only 15 issued, all on Jan. 6, 1933. This variety was withdrawn when it was discovered that an error, 90% instead of 99% [I]Fine,[/I]had been made. The word [I]Fine[/I] was chiseled out and the altered die was used to strike additional pieces (Type III) for the silver movement boosters present at the striking. [IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK823_obvJD.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK823_revJD.jpg[/IMG] Photos courtesy of John Dean [B]Obv.[/B] [I]Pedley-Ryan & Co.[/I] / [I]Denver[/I] [B]Rev.[/B] [I]One Ounce[/I] / [I]Silver[/I] / [I]90% Fine[/I] [U]HK-823[/U] Silver. 38mm. [SIZE=4][B]TYPE III[/B][/SIZE] Fewer than 85 pieces were struck, all on Jan. 6, 1933. See Type II above. [IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK824_obvJD.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK824_revJD.jpg[/IMG] Photos courtesy of John Dean [B]Obv.[/B] [I]Pedley-Ryan & Co.[/I] / [I]Denver[/I] [B]Rev.[/B] [I]One Ounce[/I] / [I]Silver[/I] / [I]90%[/I] [U]HK-824[/U] Silver. 38mm. [SIZE=4][B]TYPE IV[/B][/SIZE] Not more than 500 issued, beginning Jan. 7, 1933. Pedley-Ryan expressed hope this would be "the last and final variety." Complaints developed, however, that some motorists were using the slugs in lieu of silver dollars at automatic filling stations. A further change then was made, both as to size and type (Type VII). It was reported previously that only "50 made" of this Type IV; obviously an error. [IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK825_obvTH.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK825_revTH.jpg[/IMG] Photos courtesy of Tom Hoffman [B]Obv.[/B] [I]Pedley-Ryan & Co.[/I] / [I]Denver[/I] [B]Rev.[/B] [I]1933[/I] / [I]Silver[/I] / [I]430 Grains[/I] [U]HK-825[/U] Silver. 38mm. [SIZE=4][B]TYPE V[/B][/SIZE] This is the same as Type IV except that word [I]Denver[/I] was omitted on obverse. Apparently obverse die was cut incorrectly and error was discovered after only a few Type V were struck. [B]Obv.[/B] [I]Pedley-Ryan & Co.[/I] [B]Rev.[/B] [I]1933[/I] / [I]Silver[/I] / [I]430[/I] Grains [U]HK-826[/U] Silver. 38mm. [IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK826_obvJD.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK826_revJD.jpg[/IMG] Photos courtesy of John Dean [SIZE=4][B]TYPE VI[/B][/SIZE] Bertram Robbins and his son Bertram Robbins, Jr., operators of a men's clothing store in Colorado Springs, bought 300 discs (Type IV) from Pedley-Ryan & Co. in Denver at bullion value. One Saturday morning in 1933, Bertram, Jr., seated in a store display window, used a punch-type die to make an impression [I]Robbins on the Corner[/I] above [I]Pedley-Ryan & Co.[/I] (In a few instances, the impression was made below [I]Pedley-Ryan & Co.[/I]) With each purchase in the store, a customer could buy one of the discs for $1. All 300 pieces were sold that day. Kappen-Mitchell, [I]Depression Scrip of the United States[/I], Colo. No. 5. [IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK827_obvHG.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK827_revHG.jpg[/IMG] Photos courtesy of Heritage Galleries (HA.com) [B]Obv.[/B] [I]Robbins[/I] / [I]on the[/I] / [I]Corner[/I] / [I]Pedley-Ryan & Co.[/I] / [I]Denver[/I]. The word Robbins is curved; remaining lines, straight. [B]Rev.[/B] [I]1933[/I] / [I]Silver[/I] / [I]430 grains[/I] [U]HK-827[/U] Silver. 38mm. [U]HK-827a[/U] Same as above but [I]Robbins[/I] / [I]on the[/I] / [I]Corner[/I] is below [I]Pedley-Ryan & Co.[/I] / [I]Denver[/I]. [SIZE=4][B]TYPE VII[/B][/SIZE] This is the only embossed Pedley-Ryan; only 50 issued, beginning in June 1933. [IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK828_obvHG.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://www.so-calleddollars.com/images/HK828_revHG.jpg[/IMG] Photos courtesy of Heritage Galleries (HA.com) [B]Obv.[/B] Legend around, [I]One Troy Ounce 999 Fine Silver[/I]; below, [I]*** 1933 ***[/I]. Across frosted center, within circle, [I]480[/I] / [I]Grains[/I] / [I]999 Fine[/I] / scroll / [I]Pedley-Ryan[/I] / [I]& Co.[/I] / [I]Denver, Colo.[/I] [B]Rev.[/B] Across frosted center, within circle, [I]Bimetalism[/I] / [I]16-1[/I] / [I]Means Value[/I] / [I]of This Token[/I] / [I]Would be[/I] / [I]$1.29[/I]; legend around, [I]* Silver the Key to Prosperity *[/I]; below, [I]The World Over[/I] [U]HK-828[/U] Silver. 40mm. Here is my recent purchase which I probably over paid for but I really wanted a type 3 since there is a small number of them and I know that it was struck on 6 January 1933. [ATTACH=full]1388569[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1388570[/ATTACH] I bought it from a dealer in Colorado assuming that it was out of a local collection. Please post any that you might have or feel free to tell me I’m foolish for paying a premium for a private round like this. Jim[/QUOTE]
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