Hello everyone. I know someone who recently received their NGC submission back in the mail. On each slab, they had their name pedigreed on the slab. So in that case - What is the rule to getting a pedigree on your slab? Can anyone do it? Do you need to be registered somewhere? Does it cost a fee? Thanks for your time.
Any fool can get a pedigree........if you pay enough. Thing is, is the pedigree worth it? I'm not about to buy a 'YoloBagels' pedigree unless it's a classic commem. And even with that, it's gotta be something I'm looking for. Welcome to the forum my friend.........
I believe the top-ranked collections in some of the major sets in the PCGS and NGC Registry programs are eligible for pedigreed labels. I know this was the case in the past with PCGS. One of my gold PCGS Registry type sets even (briefly) qualified for a pedigree, but I ended up selling the coins without taking advantage of that. I wonder if the pedigree would have had to be my real-world last name, or if they would have put "Lord Marcovan" on the label? Would have been fun to find out. Guess I'll never know now. Haven't been on the PCGS Registry in forever. My basic gold type set wasn't #1. I think you had to be in the top ten to qualify for the pedigree. I was at #9 or #10, as I recall. Mind you, this was 15 years ago, in the relatively early days of the PCGS Registry. Nowadays the same set I built would probably come in around #50 or so, and I couldn't afford to build it anyway. Times change. Bullion is certainly a different story from what it was 15 years ago! I clearly remember buying a PCGS MS63 OGH 1908 No Motto Saint for that set. 400 bucks ... delivered. Wow. Doesn't seem that long ago. Wish I'd held onto those coins, obviously. As to straight out buying a private pedigree, I don't know if you can do that or not. If the TPGs have any respect for their brands, I would think they would require some kind of notability, like a historical provenance, or at least the coin being in one of the top Registry sets. I did get PCGS to put a pedigree on the label of a coin I submitted recently. But that had everything to do with the coin's hoard provenance, and nothing to do with me personally.
I found a Bill Fivaz pedigree Buffalo nickel on ebay awhile back. It was a common date and you were basically paying for the pedigree. I couldnt justify it as Im not an avid Buffalo collector. I watch for Eliasberg pedigrees just because I think it would be cool to own one from that collection.
I've owned one Eliasberg coin, but it was raw, not slabbed. You might be surprised to learn where I kept it. John Quincy Adams on an ancient coin is the pedigree I want. They're out there. I'm a descendant.
I had a world coin from King Farouk's auction - cost me $5 or $10. I just picked up a couple of Classic Silver Commems from the Bowers & Merena's Reference Collection with no premium (10% under GS).
Do Redfield and Binion silver dollars count? The first tossed them down a coal chute to cheat the taxman and the second skimmed them off the casino take.
A King Farouk pedigree would be cool. What's the coin? Sure, those are both fairly well known pedigrees.
I did a quick write-up on this topic back in January 2017 on my ANA blog. https://www.money.org/collector/drdarryl/blog/provenance-to-pedigree Also, I'm one of those individuals that received a NGC pedigree assignment on my "research collection" at no cost. It was more of a courtesy to me (based on my numismatic research/discovery) and planned use of these NGC pedigree medals as plates in my next book. Visit http://www.potus-sgm.com/ As I stated in my ANA blog "It helps if you written book(s), created a website, have a specialized collection, presented your research findings, and can otherwise prove yourself as a numismatic expert with your specialty collection." These medals slipped by numismatists for over a half-century and were first cataloged in my 2014 book. When I say cataloged I referring to organizing and forming an entire US Mint medal series based on my research findings. I also was the first to identify the designers and mintage for the fifteen medal types. More importantly, I located evidence that was missed by US historians to prove these are genuine presidential numismatic artifacts. Here are two samples. Both are President Eisenhower Class 2 medals (same dimension as a US Morgan silver dollar, same silver fineness, and with a smooth edge). There are eight different Class 2 medal types. I was ecstatic when I found this news clipping. I included three news snippets discussing President Eisenhower's South America medal.
I don't remember. I think it was a French Indo-China copper piece. It was only in VF, so I sold it. I know better now.
Cool yes, but you have to be careful and a Farouk pedigree could actually reduce the value of the coins as many of his coins were known or believed to be harshly cleaned. Even if the coin was OK the Farouk predigree can cause collectors to back away. Especially if they don't have the opportunity to examine the coin in hand.
Good point, but hey, for five or ten bucks with a Farouk pedigree, I'd buy something that looked like the last five roadkill "error coins" that were posted on the forums this morning.
Everything is out of hand. Too fancy. I love PCGS, And, If my coin(s) are first strike 70's, I'm 100% satisfied. What's also the big deal with (FDOI), First day of issue??? IF it grades a 70, That should be good enough.
I think if you request it now, NGC will put a pedigree. I was watching one of numistackers video on youtube and someone was able to put the "Regal Collection" on their coins and it was a modern bullion coin.
