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<p>[QUOTE="Bmmartin, post: 3919058, member: 98956"]PMD - are we casting lots on Survivor? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I'll try to expand a little because I like to have fun with guessing causes (although only the person that created this can know for sure).</p><p><br /></p><p>My first impression was that the coin was a pure vice grip/plier job (compression and torque, seems to be confirmed by twisted shape from the edge photo) followed by a repair job (use of some adhesive on the reverse). The more I looked at the first two photos, the more I was convinced that it was PMD on two coins that Dr. Frankenstein decided to mate.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, the next pics that FoundinTN posted had me intrigued a bit because, rather than a mad experiment involving two coins, it looked like a single coin with a loose flap that had been repaired - I've seen this on a few lamination errors (sorry, no evidence) that someone thought they should repair and on old hammered coins (that also looked Elmer glued together). </p><p><br /></p><p>The third picture seems to show that it's like a hinge? Is that correct, Nicole? If so, is the legend intact or is it sheered apart around the "S" (like it appears to be in the first two sets of photos).</p><p><br /></p><p>However, regardless of what it is now, it definitely didn't leave the mint like that, nor does it seem anywhere near possible that the damage stemmed from purely mint-related issues (a planchet flaw, etc.). I say this because the loose hinged part, where it connects with the "S" is stretched and warped, like someone pulled on it (think taffy). Rather than matching like a puzzle, the "S" on the hinged portion is now larger than the "S" on the primary portion.</p><p><br /></p><p>I could believe a theory that this coin may have had a lamination issue. I could also be convinced that this caused someone to want to get a peak underneath the hood (I'll admit guilt in doing things like this in the past, like splitting a bimetallic coin apart or sawing a clad in half. No one else got a case of swamp leeches? I'm the only one? What's the deal?).</p><p><br /></p><p>However, the compression, torqued shape, and warped lettering all seem to point towards at least some level of (if not all) manmade damage. Thus, any potential (if any) value this may have had as an error is gone and it is purely PMD now as Fred stated.</p><p><br /></p><p>Please correct me if my logic is flawed at all, y'all![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bmmartin, post: 3919058, member: 98956"]PMD - are we casting lots on Survivor? ;) I'll try to expand a little because I like to have fun with guessing causes (although only the person that created this can know for sure). My first impression was that the coin was a pure vice grip/plier job (compression and torque, seems to be confirmed by twisted shape from the edge photo) followed by a repair job (use of some adhesive on the reverse). The more I looked at the first two photos, the more I was convinced that it was PMD on two coins that Dr. Frankenstein decided to mate. However, the next pics that FoundinTN posted had me intrigued a bit because, rather than a mad experiment involving two coins, it looked like a single coin with a loose flap that had been repaired - I've seen this on a few lamination errors (sorry, no evidence) that someone thought they should repair and on old hammered coins (that also looked Elmer glued together). The third picture seems to show that it's like a hinge? Is that correct, Nicole? If so, is the legend intact or is it sheered apart around the "S" (like it appears to be in the first two sets of photos). However, regardless of what it is now, it definitely didn't leave the mint like that, nor does it seem anywhere near possible that the damage stemmed from purely mint-related issues (a planchet flaw, etc.). I say this because the loose hinged part, where it connects with the "S" is stretched and warped, like someone pulled on it (think taffy). Rather than matching like a puzzle, the "S" on the hinged portion is now larger than the "S" on the primary portion. I could believe a theory that this coin may have had a lamination issue. I could also be convinced that this caused someone to want to get a peak underneath the hood (I'll admit guilt in doing things like this in the past, like splitting a bimetallic coin apart or sawing a clad in half. No one else got a case of swamp leeches? I'm the only one? What's the deal?). However, the compression, torqued shape, and warped lettering all seem to point towards at least some level of (if not all) manmade damage. Thus, any potential (if any) value this may have had as an error is gone and it is purely PMD now as Fred stated. Please correct me if my logic is flawed at all, y'all![/QUOTE]
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