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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 492854, member: 112"]Mike - </p><p><br /></p><p>It is not that I am dismissing anything, if you guys want to continue talking about it be my guest. But I have expressed my view point on the issue several times now and my view point is not going to change. So why continue to say the same thing over and over ? I see no purpose in it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lehigh - </p><p><br /></p><p>I have explained numerous times in this thread, and may others, <b>WHY</b>, coins are graded according to date/mint instead of grading an entire series by the same standard. I will repeat it one more time - it is because the things that determine how a coin will look are not equal. Those things are - strike pressure and die spacing. </p><p><br /></p><p>And someone mentioned trying to grade a coin based on the detail of the hub - well that doesn't work either because the hub has nothing to do with it since not all dies are hubbed equally. Different dies, all made from the same hub, have different quality.</p><p><br /></p><p>I mean c'mon guys - they have a master hub, working hubs, master dies & working dies. But the only thing that can possibly be used to judge the grade of a coin is the end result - the coin itself. Everything else is variable. And if you are going to judge the quality of something then the variables that affect that quality have to be removed. </p><p><br /></p><p>It is the quality of the die combined with striking pressure and die spacing that determines the quality of the coin. All of the great numismatic minds in the world know this - and every single one of them agrees with it. </p><p><br /></p><p>But if you guys wish to believe that all of the experts are wrong and that you are right - then be my guest and believe it. There is nothing I can do to change your minds, nor do I even want to change your minds. </p><p><br /></p><p>People believe what they want to believe and any effort to change that is an effort in futility.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 492854, member: 112"]Mike - It is not that I am dismissing anything, if you guys want to continue talking about it be my guest. But I have expressed my view point on the issue several times now and my view point is not going to change. So why continue to say the same thing over and over ? I see no purpose in it. Lehigh - I have explained numerous times in this thread, and may others, [B]WHY[/B], coins are graded according to date/mint instead of grading an entire series by the same standard. I will repeat it one more time - it is because the things that determine how a coin will look are not equal. Those things are - strike pressure and die spacing. And someone mentioned trying to grade a coin based on the detail of the hub - well that doesn't work either because the hub has nothing to do with it since not all dies are hubbed equally. Different dies, all made from the same hub, have different quality. I mean c'mon guys - they have a master hub, working hubs, master dies & working dies. But the only thing that can possibly be used to judge the grade of a coin is the end result - the coin itself. Everything else is variable. And if you are going to judge the quality of something then the variables that affect that quality have to be removed. It is the quality of the die combined with striking pressure and die spacing that determines the quality of the coin. All of the great numismatic minds in the world know this - and every single one of them agrees with it. But if you guys wish to believe that all of the experts are wrong and that you are right - then be my guest and believe it. There is nothing I can do to change your minds, nor do I even want to change your minds. People believe what they want to believe and any effort to change that is an effort in futility.[/QUOTE]
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