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Message:: [QUOTE="Conder101, post: 1449790, member: 66"]Is it?  Both companies started in 1986.  PCGS in February, I don't know what month PCI started.  So PCGS is either older or the difference in age is so small as to be immaterial.  And the "old man" you mentioned was the fourth owner of PCI and he only owned it from march 2002 til he died in 2007 I believe.  His wife then ran it for about six months before it folded and the business was sold to David Lawrence Rare Coin.  It operated as DGS for about two years folded again, was sold and operated for one month as PCI again before folding again.  The coins graded during the period of the "Old Man" are considered to be some of the worst grading that came out of the company. As for your grading test, since grading is subjective you will find that you would probably get similar results no matter which TPG you chose to "test".[/QUOTE]