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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;NPCoin, post: 357411, member: 5629&quot;]...(conserving some space)</p><p><br /></p><p>Unfortunately, what you have done is linked a hyped advertisement, not the legal contract which is found <a href="http://www.dominiongrading.com/termsConditions.cfm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.dominiongrading.com/termsConditions.cfm" rel="nofollow">here</a>.&nbsp; #16 in their terms makes it clear that they are copyrighting YOUR coin&#039;s image.&nbsp; The very image of a coin can in and of itself be of value, especially if it is a rarity with regards to type, variety, error, etc.&nbsp; By submitting any such coins to DGS, they are claiming full copyright to that image of the coin.&nbsp; By submitting your coin to DGS you are agreeing to their legal contract, and thus granting them to <b>charge you to photograph your coin and use it in any manner they choose</b>...even to license it to others for commercial use.</p><p><br /></p><p>In this contract you are acknowledging, in the very least,&nbsp; that you are granting them a royalty-free license to utilize the image of your coin in whatever capacity they desire.&nbsp; Because this clause is so broad, it could have consequences as far reaching as granting them the exclusive right to use the coin and holder together for commercial purposes.&nbsp; Just something to really think about.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>That is only partly true.&nbsp; They make an advertising claim that they <b>will grade</b> problem coins, but they do not guarantee that they will...there is simply the probability that they will.&nbsp; Again, you must read the <b>legal contract</b>.&nbsp; Consider #4 very carefully (refer to the linked Terms and Conditions directed to the DGS website).</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a scenario for you.&nbsp; You buy a coin from eBay seller imaspoon.&nbsp; You receive your new coin and send it straight to DGS for grading since they will grade &quot;problem&quot; coins.&nbsp; You have no worries, because you are under the understanding that they <b>will not</b> bodybag a coin, but simply slab it with comment.&nbsp; Unfortunately, there is nowhere neither in their ToS nor in their advertising that states explicitly that they slab every coin.&nbsp; In fact, they notify you of the fact that they will <b>not</b> slab &quot;doctored&quot; coins, and your recent submission had been dipped prior to submission and therefore a violation of the ToS.</p><p><br /></p><p>You receive your coin shortly afterward, with a tart letter, and are out your submission fees, and still have a raw coin.&nbsp; remember, there are varied levels of &quot;cleaning&quot;.&nbsp; Even the &quot;Big 3&quot; will occasionally have very lightly cleaned coins.&nbsp; Lightly cleaned coins are normally not considered to be &quot;altered&quot;, per se, so much as not being able to be graded due to &quot;market acceptability&quot;.&nbsp; Dipping, on the other hand, is normally considered purely an alteration of surfaces, in other words, &quot;doctored&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p>Reading their press release, then reading their ToS, they are propagating only half of the truth behind their services in their advertising.&nbsp; To me, this is deception by omission.&nbsp; Yet, only time will tell if I am right and numerous coins will start coming back in &quot;bodybags&quot; or if I&#039;m wrong and everybody will be free to &quot;dip and submit&quot; and have the coin slabbed.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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