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  1. Kentucky

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  3. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    That really isn't very surprising to me and I don't think we will be seeing much variation in that for US coins. It is a little funny the featured coin is beaned giving CAC some free advertisement but again the PCGS CAC combo does bring the highest prices so not really a surprise there either.
     
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  4. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    At the level those coins are at, I wouldn't expect a bean (or even a grade on a label) to matter one way or the other.
     
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  5. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Bean seems to a touch, but yea the grades at those levels are really just rankings against the other examples and even then buyers don't always agree with the TPG rankings
     
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  6. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    No surprise there, since those are all US coins. I'd like to see the top 20 non-US coin list. I'd bet the shirt on my back that it would be mostly NGC graded pieces
     
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  7. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I don't have the patience to sort through the past auctions for Heritage and find the top 20 from last year but a quick glance the highest ever they have had for a world coin was a PCGS and the highest last year was a PCGS, number 2 was NGC though.

    I did find the top 5 skimming from them if my quick browse is accurate of the top 5 2 were PCGS 3 were NGC. However I am not sure number 3 should count (which was NGC) because it was a 1993 20oz gold coin that was PF 68. If you don't count that the top becomes 3 for PCGS 2 for NGC.

    NGC probably does have more, but doesn't look like they will have the dominance that PCGS had in the US coins.
     
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  8. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Agreed. My observation/guess would be that NGC is often more lenient on world coins.
     
  9. RomanTheRussian

    RomanTheRussian Mad about Reales

    That's what my experience have been over the years, as well. To a point that often I would submit coins to NGC that received a details grade from PCGS with quite a bit of success. Especially if talking about hairlines.
     
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  10. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Hairlines, within limits, is an odd thing. I'd put it up there with "cabinet friction" as far as divisiveness among collectors
     
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  11. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Don't forget uncirculated graded coins received from a cash register.
     
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  12. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    I'll never forget the presidential quarters that were just normal state quarters with a paper sticker on them, at like $20 each if I remember correctly :(
     
  13. Kentucky

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    Wonder about ICG???
     
  14. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Probably wouldn't crack the top 10 thousand
     
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  15. totally

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    Some of the coins on that list are basically legend...

    MS 67 RB 1796 Half cent... you put that thing in a NGC slab, it's going to be in the top 20 too. Same with a bunch of the others. These coins are basically legend regardless of which slab they are in. A MS RB Chain America cent... again.

    But really that half cent... dreams are made of coins like that. ugh.

    Really the point of the article should be more about how the rarest/most valueble/most unique/most sought after coins are in PCGS slabs more often than NGC slabs. The slab, the grade on the slab, and the bean are irrelevant when buying a coin like this and it's impossible to know if the PCGS label adds value to a coin of this magnitude. I kind of suspect not. I'm sure someone will disagree with me. But unless you sell the same coin in both slabs at the same auction (Which is physically impossible), we will never know for sure. All the serious buyers know the coin regardless of what slab it is and it's history of what slabs it used to be in. It could be raw and the buyer would still know.
     
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  16. H8_modern

    H8_modern Coin addict

    Funny, I was just looking through the Heritage eBay listings and wondering what PCGS was doing.

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  17. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Your blown up pictures are like 1000x magnification for it to standout. 67s can have hits as well though
     
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  18. H8_modern

    H8_modern Coin addict

    I personally expect better from a
    Proof 67.
     
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  19. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Its a couple barely noticeable marks when you look at it in life size. Even in the second picture which is still significant magnification doesn't look bad
     
  20. H8_modern

    H8_modern Coin addict

    With all coins, it's personal preference. For me, I wouldn't buy those first 2; they don't even look like proofs to me. This one, I would.

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