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<p>[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 2865088, member: 76863"]Large dealers submit huge amounts which brings probability on their side. When you get monster boxes or large orders from the mint the production is now generally good enough that some sort of standardized percentage will get 70s with a +/- variance. Occasionally some offerings over perform like the EU sets, and some under perform like the 2012 ASE set. </p><p><br /></p><p>Really though none of us have any idea what the dealers return rate actually is. Many of them have stopped having anything but 70s holdered for recent moderns. That heavily skews the population reports to be 70 heavy where only the 70s are recorded and everything that would have been a 69 or lower goes unrecorded. The only ones who know their true rate are PCGS and the submitter. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>They did review it, they just didn't agree. The NGC holder does block parts of the coin so they do have to assume in small areas. They don't make assumptions if a scratch is on a holder or the coin, any visual impurities on the holder hurt your chances, and if they have any doubt they just say no. </p><p><br /></p><p>Regardless of holder though it is well understood that crossover grading is the hardest due to not being able to view the coin raw and being on the hook for it if they crack it out then say oops we really don't agree with this. That's the major reason why a lot of people will just crack coins out and submit them raw that they are sure about instead of doing a cross over.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 2865088, member: 76863"]Large dealers submit huge amounts which brings probability on their side. When you get monster boxes or large orders from the mint the production is now generally good enough that some sort of standardized percentage will get 70s with a +/- variance. Occasionally some offerings over perform like the EU sets, and some under perform like the 2012 ASE set. Really though none of us have any idea what the dealers return rate actually is. Many of them have stopped having anything but 70s holdered for recent moderns. That heavily skews the population reports to be 70 heavy where only the 70s are recorded and everything that would have been a 69 or lower goes unrecorded. The only ones who know their true rate are PCGS and the submitter. They did review it, they just didn't agree. The NGC holder does block parts of the coin so they do have to assume in small areas. They don't make assumptions if a scratch is on a holder or the coin, any visual impurities on the holder hurt your chances, and if they have any doubt they just say no. Regardless of holder though it is well understood that crossover grading is the hardest due to not being able to view the coin raw and being on the hook for it if they crack it out then say oops we really don't agree with this. That's the major reason why a lot of people will just crack coins out and submit them raw that they are sure about instead of doing a cross over.[/QUOTE]
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