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<p>[QUOTE="Midas, post: 72394, member: 2761"]As far as I know, ANACS does not publish population reports. They could if they want, otherwise what is the purpose of the number they print on the slab. Without this, we may never know how many of one grade is out there compared to the number of submissions for that coin. If I was submitting my coins, I would have to consider who will grade my coins correctly, and also how their service is received ($$$) in the coin community.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Second</b>, I balance the number of submissions compared to the number of high grades which plays a role in who is conservartive and who is not. For instance, if you are foolish enough to submit coins to Star Grading Service, and you see that 99.9% of their submissions end up as MS70 or PR70...one, it is obvious they are not conservative in grading and two, they have no business gradinig, and three, when you dig deeper and find they are owned by a seller who turns around and sells their loose change as "graded" coins, you can easily summize they in fact are a bogus service owned by their eBay powerseller, Aboncom.</p><p><br /></p><p>That is the extreme but it serves a point of looking at the number of 70 grades compared to the <u>published</u> reports of total submissions. When you look at PCGS and NGC population/census reports side by side, you have to wonder why NGC hands out as many as 3, 5, 10, 20 times MORE 70 grades than PCGS. Again...take the number of 70 grades compared to the total of submissions for a given coin. Using Speedy's logic and rational, he argues that NGC must get more of these "perfect" coins than PCGS. Does that argument have any logic? No, but that is how people "that seem to" like to present their facts...<i>on feelings</i>.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Three</b>...study how the market is reacting to one service over another. Realized prices from the auction houses provide buyers and sellers with a valuable tool. That is, how much would coin "A" graded by PCGS wiill sell for against coin "A" graded by NGC. All in all, with some exceptions like Speedy's famous PR66 Franklin that he made sure was housed in a NGC slab, PCGS realizes <u>higher</u> prices and nets <u>more</u> after all submission costs pretty much across the board. Exceptions?...sure there are. The rule?...not likely</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Four</b>...do a personal survey among everybody from your local dealers to those at shows. I am lucky enough to get to attend the F.U.N. show in Florida...which I believe is the largest coin show in the world. They had over 400 tables/dealers last year so I consider it a one of the tops for buying and selling coins. Many dealers pretty much state and agree that PCGS nets more than the other services. Does PCGS or NGC ever make mistakes? Sometimes, but when a seller can pick up the phone and state they have a coin that is graded, the first question a buyer will ask, "By who?"</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Five</b>...Read and Study the market forces, the company and your ability to look at and grade coins. After all, I can't trust my "feelings" and use that as a rational arguement.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Midas, post: 72394, member: 2761"]As far as I know, ANACS does not publish population reports. They could if they want, otherwise what is the purpose of the number they print on the slab. Without this, we may never know how many of one grade is out there compared to the number of submissions for that coin. If I was submitting my coins, I would have to consider who will grade my coins correctly, and also how their service is received ($$$) in the coin community. [B]Second[/B], I balance the number of submissions compared to the number of high grades which plays a role in who is conservartive and who is not. For instance, if you are foolish enough to submit coins to Star Grading Service, and you see that 99.9% of their submissions end up as MS70 or PR70...one, it is obvious they are not conservative in grading and two, they have no business gradinig, and three, when you dig deeper and find they are owned by a seller who turns around and sells their loose change as "graded" coins, you can easily summize they in fact are a bogus service owned by their eBay powerseller, Aboncom. That is the extreme but it serves a point of looking at the number of 70 grades compared to the [U]published[/U] reports of total submissions. When you look at PCGS and NGC population/census reports side by side, you have to wonder why NGC hands out as many as 3, 5, 10, 20 times MORE 70 grades than PCGS. Again...take the number of 70 grades compared to the total of submissions for a given coin. Using Speedy's logic and rational, he argues that NGC must get more of these "perfect" coins than PCGS. Does that argument have any logic? No, but that is how people "that seem to" like to present their facts...[I]on feelings[/I]. [B]Three[/B]...study how the market is reacting to one service over another. Realized prices from the auction houses provide buyers and sellers with a valuable tool. That is, how much would coin "A" graded by PCGS wiill sell for against coin "A" graded by NGC. All in all, with some exceptions like Speedy's famous PR66 Franklin that he made sure was housed in a NGC slab, PCGS realizes [U]higher[/U] prices and nets [U]more[/U] after all submission costs pretty much across the board. Exceptions?...sure there are. The rule?...not likely [B]Four[/B]...do a personal survey among everybody from your local dealers to those at shows. I am lucky enough to get to attend the F.U.N. show in Florida...which I believe is the largest coin show in the world. They had over 400 tables/dealers last year so I consider it a one of the tops for buying and selling coins. Many dealers pretty much state and agree that PCGS nets more than the other services. Does PCGS or NGC ever make mistakes? Sometimes, but when a seller can pick up the phone and state they have a coin that is graded, the first question a buyer will ask, "By who?" [B]Five[/B]...Read and Study the market forces, the company and your ability to look at and grade coins. After all, I can't trust my "feelings" and use that as a rational arguement.[/QUOTE]
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