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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Speedy, post: 71909, member: 705&quot;]skrilla&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>MS70/PF70 stands for...</p><p>A flawless coin exactly as it was minted, with no trace of wear or injury. Must have full luster and brilliance. Any unusual die or planchet traits must be described---</p><p>Contact marks=none show under magnification</p><p>Hairlines=None show under magnification</p><p>Luster=Very Attractive fully original</p><p>Eye appeal= Outstanding</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Midas</p><p>As I said...me and you DON&#039;T agree...and nether one of us is going to agree with the other!!! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>POP&#039;s are only showing what they grade the coins--BUT it doesn&#039;t say how many times a guy sent back in that coin trying to get the higher grade...if NGC grades the coins PF70 I still don&#039;t agree with it but as I said...I think NGC grades consistantly...and I&#039;m not going to change my mind on that....as for prices realized--look at where I paid more for a PF66 NGC Franklin...I paid more than any one had before for that grade and date and mint mark...at least Hearitge says I did....and that was a NGC slab!!! WOW...</p><p>I think you like the PNG report...when they list NGC and PCGS at the SAME place (I think that happened this year and last if I remember right) I think they are the same...so in that way of looking at it...NGC is the same a PCGS and PCGS is the same as NGC...lets agree to disagree.</p><p>I think that saying that a judge would go with PCGS and not NGC is crazy...a judge would throw out the case on the basis that it is all opinion and that that it is up to the person to decided what it right...that is the same as me suing someone because I saw they should use Wal-Mart and they say K-Mart...its nuts...</p><p>There IS NO WRONG WAY TO COLLECT...if the person wants NGC...let them have NGC...if they want PCGS...let them have PCGS...but this is a forum and that is what is sooo good about this topic...I can give my thoughts and reason why I like NGC and you can tell your side...and then the person can decided on what one THEY want.</p><p><br /></p><p>Zaneman</p><p>That is just it..too many people hear about PCGS...it is talked about everyday and when they see on up for sale (its all a marketing tip) they think it would be SOOOO much better...so they pay more for the SAME coin that is in a NGC holder...</p><p><br /></p><p>Morgan Dollar...</p><p>Thanks for saying that....but why do you say that...is it because you have heard more about PCGS or because you have heard about PCGS longer than others...or is it because you have taken coins from both Co&#039;s. and looked at how they graded them???</p><p>----------------------------------------------------</p><p>You see....Most people just hear the name of PCGS so they think its better than others...they don&#039;t care about searching about them...or reading about then as I have...and they don&#039;t think about talking to older collectors like I have...if you talk to older collectors and you get PCGS slabs AND NGC slabs...I think you will see that NGC grades more consistantly--and I think they are better....IMO....</p><p><br /></p><p>Speedy[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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