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<p>[QUOTE="Wanzewurld, post: 1405591, member: 37150"]I hope I don't start a flame war but I like NGC better! The main reason is from a couple of articles I read talking about how relatively simple it is to crack and substitute the PCGS plastic holders; that may or may not be accurate but I bought a PCGS 2006 reverse proof ASE graded 70 and it came with awful brownish stains on obverse and reverse! The obverse stain covers about 80% of the sun! So far I've been unable to get a determination from PCGS if it's legitimate. I'd think something like a stain would be mentioned on the label if the coin graded a "Perfect" 70.</p><p><br /></p><p> Most of the slabbed coins I own are NGC partly because of that one (non-returnable) purchase and partly because that's just what I wanted happened to be in an NGC slab.</p><p><br /></p><p> Now, a bit off-topic and possibly worthy of a thread of its own: I've got a few hundred or so ASE's I got from various sources but all purchased in the current year (mostly) and I'd like to have some of them slabbed. My quandary is I don't want anything less than a MS69! I've got a bunch of sealed coins I bought from Littleton and I did notice they were mostly lower quality by virtue of not seeing parallel stripes on Liberty's gown or on the flag so I know, while they are uncirculated, they wouldn't grade very high; past that, what are some of the indicators graders look for on ASE's that would denote a 69 or 70? I've looked at the two grades side-by-side under 30X magnification and have yet to find a difference between the two! If someone could please post or send me an address so I can educate myself I'd be forever grateful.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Wanzewurld, post: 1405591, member: 37150"]I hope I don't start a flame war but I like NGC better! The main reason is from a couple of articles I read talking about how relatively simple it is to crack and substitute the PCGS plastic holders; that may or may not be accurate but I bought a PCGS 2006 reverse proof ASE graded 70 and it came with awful brownish stains on obverse and reverse! The obverse stain covers about 80% of the sun! So far I've been unable to get a determination from PCGS if it's legitimate. I'd think something like a stain would be mentioned on the label if the coin graded a "Perfect" 70. Most of the slabbed coins I own are NGC partly because of that one (non-returnable) purchase and partly because that's just what I wanted happened to be in an NGC slab. Now, a bit off-topic and possibly worthy of a thread of its own: I've got a few hundred or so ASE's I got from various sources but all purchased in the current year (mostly) and I'd like to have some of them slabbed. My quandary is I don't want anything less than a MS69! I've got a bunch of sealed coins I bought from Littleton and I did notice they were mostly lower quality by virtue of not seeing parallel stripes on Liberty's gown or on the flag so I know, while they are uncirculated, they wouldn't grade very high; past that, what are some of the indicators graders look for on ASE's that would denote a 69 or 70? I've looked at the two grades side-by-side under 30X magnification and have yet to find a difference between the two! If someone could please post or send me an address so I can educate myself I'd be forever grateful.[/QUOTE]
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