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<p>[QUOTE="Midas, post: 67165, member: 2761"]GD...those are for total submissions <u>up</u> <u>to</u> the year 2005. I am not positive who does the more of total submissions, but you have to look at the individual years and coins. Here is the NGC's population reports:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://ngccoin.com/poplookup/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://ngccoin.com/poplookup/" rel="nofollow">NGC Population Reports</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Let's go back to the year 1997 since most coins that were slated to be slabbed have pretty much been slabbed. </p><p><br /></p><p>In 1997 for just Lincolns, they have certified 572 PRUltraCam Lincolns. Here's the breakdown.</p><p><br /></p><p>9- 68's</p><p>528 - 69's</p><p>34 - 70's (5.9%)</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC certified a total of 572 Ultra Cam 1997 Lincolns. </p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS on the other hand certified 1,651 1997 Lincoln proofs. Better than 3 times more.</p><p><br /></p><p>3 - 64's</p><p>2 - 65's</p><p>15- 67's</p><p>88 - 68's</p><p>1520 - 69's</p><p>20- 70's (1.2%)</p><p><br /></p><p>Back again to SAE's...Here is PCGS population reports for SAE's since 2000. The last number is total graded and the first number to the left is the number in the 70 grade, the third number to the left is the 69 grade, etc.</p><p><br /></p><p>S$1 2000-P PRDC 0 0 0 0 1 4 3 21 56 404 4745 31 5265 </p><p>S$1 2001-W PRDC 0 0 0 1 0 8 3 11 67 354 6794 74 7312 </p><p>S$1 2002-W PRDC 0 0 0 0 0 5 1 9 23 176 4038 68 4320 </p><p>S$1 2003-W PRDC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 8 79 5150 185 5426 </p><p>S$1 2004-W PRDC 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 7 5 70 4180 135 4399 </p><p>S$1 2005-W PRDC 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 16 1129 44 1192 </p><p>S$1 2005-W First Strike PRDC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5821 232 6053 </p><p><br /></p><p>Let's compare the NGC population report for silver eagles:</p><p> </p><p>2000 P EAGLE S$1 PFUC 1 1 1 4 18 99 6796 1585 8505 </p><p>2001 W EAGLE S$1 PFUC 1 2 3 20 83 8633 1454 10196</p><p>2002 W EAGLE S$1 PFUC 2 2 14 66 6055 1576 7715</p><p>2003 W EAGLE S$1 PFUC 1 2 1 9 45 6064 3979 10101 </p><p>2004 W EAGLE S$1 PFUC 1 8 65 5862 3447 9383</p><p>2005 W EAGLE S$1 PFUC 1 3 14 5578 3783 9379</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC, in this case, has certified more proof silver eagles since 2000 over PCGS which explains why they have more 70 grades than PCGS. However, look at the ratio of 70 grades to the total submissions! For instance in the year 2000, NGC certified <b>18.63% </b> of their submissions as the 70 grade where PCGS certified <b>.58%</b> of their total submissions earning a 70 grade. </p><p><br /></p><p>Last example...let's look at the population reports of the <b>1996-W dime </b> that recently has been discussed:</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS total graded in MS: 2074...807 were 67's, 426 were 68's, and 5 were 69's</p><p>PCGS total grade in MSFB: 473...231 were 67's and 90 were 68's, none higher</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC total grade in MS: 397...179 were 67's, 50 were 68's, none higher</p><p>NGC total grade in MSFT (instead of FB): 168...80 were 67's and 38 are 68's, none higher.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>CONCLUSION:</b> Look at past and recent prices realized and study the population reports PER coin as you go forward.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Midas, post: 67165, member: 2761"]GD...those are for total submissions [U]up[/U] [U]to[/U] the year 2005. I am not positive who does the more of total submissions, but you have to look at the individual years and coins. Here is the NGC's population reports: [URL=http://ngccoin.com/poplookup/]NGC Population Reports[/URL] Let's go back to the year 1997 since most coins that were slated to be slabbed have pretty much been slabbed. In 1997 for just Lincolns, they have certified 572 PRUltraCam Lincolns. Here's the breakdown. 9- 68's 528 - 69's 34 - 70's (5.9%) NGC certified a total of 572 Ultra Cam 1997 Lincolns. PCGS on the other hand certified 1,651 1997 Lincoln proofs. Better than 3 times more. 3 - 64's 2 - 65's 15- 67's 88 - 68's 1520 - 69's 20- 70's (1.2%) Back again to SAE's...Here is PCGS population reports for SAE's since 2000. The last number is total graded and the first number to the left is the number in the 70 grade, the third number to the left is the 69 grade, etc. S$1 2000-P PRDC 0 0 0 0 1 4 3 21 56 404 4745 31 5265 S$1 2001-W PRDC 0 0 0 1 0 8 3 11 67 354 6794 74 7312 S$1 2002-W PRDC 0 0 0 0 0 5 1 9 23 176 4038 68 4320 S$1 2003-W PRDC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 8 79 5150 185 5426 S$1 2004-W PRDC 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 7 5 70 4180 135 4399 S$1 2005-W PRDC 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 16 1129 44 1192 S$1 2005-W First Strike PRDC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5821 232 6053 Let's compare the NGC population report for silver eagles: 2000 P EAGLE S$1 PFUC 1 1 1 4 18 99 6796 1585 8505 2001 W EAGLE S$1 PFUC 1 2 3 20 83 8633 1454 10196 2002 W EAGLE S$1 PFUC 2 2 14 66 6055 1576 7715 2003 W EAGLE S$1 PFUC 1 2 1 9 45 6064 3979 10101 2004 W EAGLE S$1 PFUC 1 8 65 5862 3447 9383 2005 W EAGLE S$1 PFUC 1 3 14 5578 3783 9379 NGC, in this case, has certified more proof silver eagles since 2000 over PCGS which explains why they have more 70 grades than PCGS. However, look at the ratio of 70 grades to the total submissions! For instance in the year 2000, NGC certified [B]18.63% [/B] of their submissions as the 70 grade where PCGS certified [B].58%[/B] of their total submissions earning a 70 grade. Last example...let's look at the population reports of the [B]1996-W dime [/B] that recently has been discussed: PCGS total graded in MS: 2074...807 were 67's, 426 were 68's, and 5 were 69's PCGS total grade in MSFB: 473...231 were 67's and 90 were 68's, none higher NGC total grade in MS: 397...179 were 67's, 50 were 68's, none higher NGC total grade in MSFT (instead of FB): 168...80 were 67's and 38 are 68's, none higher. [B]CONCLUSION:[/B] Look at past and recent prices realized and study the population reports PER coin as you go forward.[/QUOTE]
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