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<p>[QUOTE="iPen, post: 2924541, member: 69760"]<i>If there was <u>no</u> collusion between PCGS and Coin Doctors...</i></p><p><br /></p><p>I'm trying to understand what types of alterations PCGS has been fuming over, since many of the obvious alterations can be labeled as "Details" and the dealers will lose out without a tangible loss on PCGS's part, since they're not straight grading coins that should be slabbed as Details. Is there an example of a doctored, or suspected to be, coin in a PCGS slab? Or, is that the issue - that we really can't tell lol.</p><p><br /></p><p>I want to see what it looks like, however PCGS may have labeled it (Details or straight grade). Is this coin below posted earlier by [USER=87737]@Beefer518[/USER] on the "Details Discount" thread one similar example (which didn't pass; not that the specific coin below is an expert coin doctor's alteration)?</p><p><br /></p><p>Or, is coin doctoring limited to only certain types of alterations? For instance, IMHO, AT/NT is coin doctoring but that seems to be relatively more intermediate or even elementary compared to an expert level alteration. Otherwise, obviously altered coins would give any TPG a bad reputation.</p><p><br /></p><p>------------</p><p><i>If there was a collusion between PCGS and coin doctors...</i></p><p><br /></p><p>This whole thing seems odd to me. If PCGS was actually in a conspiracy with dealers to straight slab expertly altered coins, then why pursue a lawsuit? Wouldn't it be less costly to PCGS to simply give future coins a Details grade and dealers would adjust their behavior? Then, all of a sudden, coin doctor-dealers may feel betrayed in their previously tacit collusion, but the message would be made clear without making a huge fuss about it.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/511912-1-jpg.696129/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="iPen, post: 2924541, member: 69760"][I]If there was [U]no[/U] collusion between PCGS and Coin Doctors...[/I] I'm trying to understand what types of alterations PCGS has been fuming over, since many of the obvious alterations can be labeled as "Details" and the dealers will lose out without a tangible loss on PCGS's part, since they're not straight grading coins that should be slabbed as Details. Is there an example of a doctored, or suspected to be, coin in a PCGS slab? Or, is that the issue - that we really can't tell lol. I want to see what it looks like, however PCGS may have labeled it (Details or straight grade). Is this coin below posted earlier by [USER=87737]@Beefer518[/USER] on the "Details Discount" thread one similar example (which didn't pass; not that the specific coin below is an expert coin doctor's alteration)? Or, is coin doctoring limited to only certain types of alterations? For instance, IMHO, AT/NT is coin doctoring but that seems to be relatively more intermediate or even elementary compared to an expert level alteration. Otherwise, obviously altered coins would give any TPG a bad reputation. ------------ [I]If there was a collusion between PCGS and coin doctors...[/I] This whole thing seems odd to me. If PCGS was actually in a conspiracy with dealers to straight slab expertly altered coins, then why pursue a lawsuit? Wouldn't it be less costly to PCGS to simply give future coins a Details grade and dealers would adjust their behavior? Then, all of a sudden, coin doctor-dealers may feel betrayed in their previously tacit collusion, but the message would be made clear without making a huge fuss about it. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/511912-1-jpg.696129/[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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