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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dei, post: 2924001, member: 75743&quot;]Why not? It&#039;s directly from all the horse&#039;s mouths. It won&#039;t have everything, certainly - there is most likely 10x that in files somewhere, protected by lawyer-client privilege. But that information is right there and could possibly tell a researcher quite a bit. Yet you prefer to come here and cast aspersions on everyone&#039;s character rather than get factual information. <i>Why?</i></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>My duck is huge. Usually loud, too. It yells about &quot;education&quot; and &quot;teaching the young&#039;uns&quot; and something about teaching a man to fish. Friggin&#039; thing won&#039;t shut up.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You&#039;re welcome. [I know you said that facetiously; I did not] It was only to highlight the ease in finding information if you dig in the right spot. The better thing would be to go down to the courthouse where it happened and see if you can look at the microfiche (some things may not be online, even though they may say 100% is). Some parts may only be viewable by the parties concerned, but redactions in any hard copies you can get will point to their existence. Digging sometimes takes a while.</p><p><br /></p><p>Asking on forums is good, too, like you did. Plenty of people around like SSDD and V Kurt who have more knowledge in their pinky toe than I&#039;ll have in a lifetime - but don&#039;t make the mistake of judging before you get all the facts you possibly can.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Agreed. Cross check and quadruple check, against all the sources you can find. Records can be blacked out or lost, memories can be faulty, and so can egos.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, it should have. There seems to have been a lot going on out of the public eye, and it sounds like agreements were reached behind closed doors. As Ms. Sperber talked about maybe that being the best way, she may have been trying to hint that was how it happened.</p><p><br /></p><p>Was there something numismatically important going on at the time? Perhaps that overshadowed these events? Maybe purposely?</p><p><br /></p><p>Lawsuits can be filed for any number of reasons. If PCGS seriously thought someone was continuing to send them doctored coins, they <i>would</i> have booted them from the authorized dealer program - otherwise they would be a detriment to their business. If we carry that thought forward, then either they didn&#039;t believe the charges they filed against them and it was only a shot across the bow for some other reason, or the doctors signed a binding contract that if they did it again they&#039;d be in for million$ worth of fines. And maybe keeping their authorized dealer status was part of the deal. This is all conjecture, because the only way we&#039;ll ever know is if someone who was actually there lets the cat out of the bag.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>OUCH. NOW LISTEN HERE</p><p>..13 years? Are you a glutton for punishment?</p><p><br /></p><p>But no, I was absolutely not stating that any online search is a replacement for getting your butt physically to the court house/library and requesting the actual records. My only aim was to point out the amount of info he&#039;d missed out on when he was complaining there was none out there. I think I covered some of that above. Research you gain can lead to more, as long as what you have is credible, and one should exhaust all avenues if one is seriously researching.</p><p><br /></p><p>One of my biggest regrets is that I never made it to the Smithsonian to talk to Dr. Doty while he was alive. I was very close to DC and should have done it while I could. There is nothing better than talking to history-makers or seeing actual records for yourself.. and besides the fact that speaking with him would have been immensely educational, he was also a very nice man.</p><p><br /></p><p>About the dealer v. PCGS thing.. the last third of <a href="https://www.coincommunity.com/articles/catman_where_have_all.asp" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.coincommunity.com/articles/catman_where_have_all.asp" rel="nofollow">this article by Steve Kaden (Catman)</a> over at CCF is especially relevant. If you don&#039;t want to read all that, do a page search for the paragraph that starts &quot;The move of the investor into the hobby began to create problems with grading.&quot; The rest covers the time frame of the spike in the graph.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m so sorry. Losing someone we care about is hard.. losing one to something like this would make it exponentially worse.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, sorry about the lateness of my reply. I lurk here a lot but I suck at timely responses, so usually don&#039;t say anything because of it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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