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<p>[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2921268, member: 1892"]It is only the current numismatic morality which dictates that deliberately altering a coin's appearance is anathema, and accepted variances to that theme exist even so. </p><p><br /></p><p>A century and a half ago, the discerning collector lacquered his copper so it didn't turn brown, and scrubbed his silver regularly to keep it shiny. Half a century ago, most silver which displayed tarnish was chemically stripped because that was the accepted practice; to this day we carefully discuss when dipping a coin might and might not be appropriate. If you remove the ugly brown color on a Morgan, or the haze on a Proof, and come up with blinding mirrors, you are a hero.</p><p><br /></p><p>So the question I put forth is not, "Is it wrong <b>now</b>?" The question is, "Was it wrong <b>then</b>?" The answer is, in my opinion, ambivalent at best. Was expert modification of the surfaces of a coin in order to make it more closely and accurately resemble its' condition at the moment it was minted considered reprehensible fifty years ago? Thirty? Or was it relatively widespread practice, considered no worse than maybe a bit "greasy?" And considering that the practice, when the lawsuit was filed, was engaged in by a varied cadre of high-level dealers with long experience, are we to somehow believe that a TPG <i>founded by high-level dealers with long experience</i> did not know about it? PCGS did not sue their customers, <b>they sued their <i>peers</i></b>. </p><p><br /></p><p>It's silly to think they were in any way "surprised" by coin doctoring. Just as silly as to think it appeared "suddenly."</p><p><br /></p><p>It is only the advent of TPG's and the microscopic delineations of the Sheldon Scale which have made doctoring a coin advantageous. Many of us are old enough to remember a time when tiny differences did not make for a fourfold increase in the value of a coin. And even worse, in many cases those massive differences are the result of a very incomplete knowledge of the rarity of a given coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>It prompts me to ask which is the greater obscenity: carefully restoring a coin to improved appearance - a topic regarding which we share knowledge and procedure on a daily basis, or manipulating grading standard and practice over the course of decades to make more money for the shareholders and gain greater control over the hobby as a whole, such that a coin I can afford in MS63 becomes beyond my means without a second mortgage in MS64, <b>when you could give it either grade at random if I submit it a dozen times</b>?</p><p><br /></p><p>If doctoring is a problem, it's only because TPG's made it a worthwhile endeavor.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2921268, member: 1892"]It is only the current numismatic morality which dictates that deliberately altering a coin's appearance is anathema, and accepted variances to that theme exist even so. A century and a half ago, the discerning collector lacquered his copper so it didn't turn brown, and scrubbed his silver regularly to keep it shiny. Half a century ago, most silver which displayed tarnish was chemically stripped because that was the accepted practice; to this day we carefully discuss when dipping a coin might and might not be appropriate. If you remove the ugly brown color on a Morgan, or the haze on a Proof, and come up with blinding mirrors, you are a hero. So the question I put forth is not, "Is it wrong [B]now[/B]?" The question is, "Was it wrong [B]then[/B]?" The answer is, in my opinion, ambivalent at best. Was expert modification of the surfaces of a coin in order to make it more closely and accurately resemble its' condition at the moment it was minted considered reprehensible fifty years ago? Thirty? Or was it relatively widespread practice, considered no worse than maybe a bit "greasy?" And considering that the practice, when the lawsuit was filed, was engaged in by a varied cadre of high-level dealers with long experience, are we to somehow believe that a TPG [I]founded by high-level dealers with long experience[/I] did not know about it? PCGS did not sue their customers, [B]they sued their [I]peers[/I][/B]. It's silly to think they were in any way "surprised" by coin doctoring. Just as silly as to think it appeared "suddenly." It is only the advent of TPG's and the microscopic delineations of the Sheldon Scale which have made doctoring a coin advantageous. Many of us are old enough to remember a time when tiny differences did not make for a fourfold increase in the value of a coin. And even worse, in many cases those massive differences are the result of a very incomplete knowledge of the rarity of a given coin. It prompts me to ask which is the greater obscenity: carefully restoring a coin to improved appearance - a topic regarding which we share knowledge and procedure on a daily basis, or manipulating grading standard and practice over the course of decades to make more money for the shareholders and gain greater control over the hobby as a whole, such that a coin I can afford in MS63 becomes beyond my means without a second mortgage in MS64, [B]when you could give it either grade at random if I submit it a dozen times[/B]? If doctoring is a problem, it's only because TPG's made it a worthwhile endeavor.[/QUOTE]
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