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<p>[QUOTE="robp, post: 5172869, member: 96746"]I don't know enough about US coins to say whether they are stricter or not, but I do know this is a topic that will go round and round without resolution. My view is that they show too little consistency. Consistently graded where opinions differ would be ok, but a number has to mean something. Well over 10 years ago the topic came up after looking at some slabbed grades where the only conclusion to be drawn was that 11 MS grades covered everything from mint state to mostly smooth. Whether that amount was 60%, 61% etc was mostly tongue in cheek and irrelevant, but the variation was quite noticeable, even for a specific number. </p><p><br /></p><p>I think the question has to be asked on occasion whether the in-house knowledge is sufficient for the service they offer. Knowledge and ability should be directly correlated to experience, but there are a lot of 'top pops' in non-US coins which have a type population of 1. This does not and can not instill confidence. There are a couple hundred countries on this planet, with hundreds more defunct, many of which have coins the TPGs have not seen or certainly aren't familiar with. If you haven't seen a number of coins in a range of grades from as it left the mint to completely flat, I would say it is difficult to assign an accurate number to the coin whoever you are. </p><p><br /></p><p>I also think part of the problem is terminology, which doesn't translate well when crossing the pond. Mint state is an absolute, just like unique. Things aren't very unique despite claims to the contrary, and other than genuinely mint state pieces are best described as EF or better (aka unc with wear). It's a topic guaranteed to provide controversy.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="robp, post: 5172869, member: 96746"]I don't know enough about US coins to say whether they are stricter or not, but I do know this is a topic that will go round and round without resolution. My view is that they show too little consistency. Consistently graded where opinions differ would be ok, but a number has to mean something. Well over 10 years ago the topic came up after looking at some slabbed grades where the only conclusion to be drawn was that 11 MS grades covered everything from mint state to mostly smooth. Whether that amount was 60%, 61% etc was mostly tongue in cheek and irrelevant, but the variation was quite noticeable, even for a specific number. I think the question has to be asked on occasion whether the in-house knowledge is sufficient for the service they offer. Knowledge and ability should be directly correlated to experience, but there are a lot of 'top pops' in non-US coins which have a type population of 1. This does not and can not instill confidence. There are a couple hundred countries on this planet, with hundreds more defunct, many of which have coins the TPGs have not seen or certainly aren't familiar with. If you haven't seen a number of coins in a range of grades from as it left the mint to completely flat, I would say it is difficult to assign an accurate number to the coin whoever you are. I also think part of the problem is terminology, which doesn't translate well when crossing the pond. Mint state is an absolute, just like unique. Things aren't very unique despite claims to the contrary, and other than genuinely mint state pieces are best described as EF or better (aka unc with wear). It's a topic guaranteed to provide controversy.[/QUOTE]
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