PCGS Submission 272690: six US coins, with results & commentary

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by lordmarcovan, Jan 28, 2023.

  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Just got my latest submission back. As is usually the case with me, it's a mixed bag of stuff, heavy on US Type.

    1853 large cent
    Results: XF40
    As expected.
    No surprises here. I like the slightly contrasting patina on this coin. It's a bit darker brown than the norm, but I actually like darker brown coppers if the surfaces are OK on them. It got a straight grade, which was the main thing.

    1854 large cent
    Results: AU58 BN
    This coin was formerly housed in an NGC MS62 BN holder. That old insert was included with the coin when I bought it. I believe the former owner had cracked it out of the old NGC slab to put it in a Dansco 7070 album. Oh well. Actually, looking at the TrueView and noting the slight rub on the high points of the hair, I don't really blame PCGS for going 58 on this one. I'm also disappointed in the way the TrueView seems to accentuate the slight discolored areas on the reverse. I don't remember noticing them when the coin was in hand. So this one didn't grade out as hoped, nor did it photograph well, but as it happens, all of the disappointments with this submission got encapsulated into this one coin. The rest did OK, I think.

    1871 Seated dollar With Motto
    Results: F12
    The grade was pretty much as expected. My main concern was getting a straight grade with no issues like old cleaning noted. And that happened, so I'm pleased. Though it's in a fairly modest grade, I like the contrasting "CircCam" toning on this coin. Also, I bought it on eBay raw, for $400, and the PCGS trend price in F12 is $550, so that's pretty good.

    1877-S Trade dollar
    Results: VF35
    This one was a pleasant surprise. I was thoroughly expecting a "details" grade on this one, because I personally cracked it out of an ANACS "VF20 details/cleaned" holder. I like the look of the coin. It has that contrasting toning I go for. Not only did it unexpectedly straight-grade at PCGS, but it also received a 15-point boost, and it photographed nicely, too. I bought this coin in the former ANACS holder on eBay for $200. Its PCGS trend price in the new holder is $400. That's a pretty big win, so I'm delighted with the outcome on this one, and will put it in my collection.

    2022 $5 gold Eagle (1/10 oz.)
    Results: MS70
    Well, you can't top that grade result, now, can you? This is only the second time I've ever made a 70-grade in a TPG submission, and the first time with a US coin. (The first was an Austrian commemorative I made a PCGS PR70 DCAM on.) And this one is all gravy, since the coin itself cost me nothing, and I'm only into it for the submission costs and nothing else. I won the coin in a generous giveaway last August, from jessewvu on Collectors Universe, who again deserves my thanks.

    1904 $20 Liberty
    Results: MS62
    Not my coin.
    This was piggybacked on my submission by my friend @Randy Abercrombie. I was hoping he would get a 64 on it, but looking at that mark on the cheek in the photos (which I didn't really notice so much when I had it in hand), I can see why PCGS gave this one a 62. I don't think that's a terrible result. The coin has nice cartwheel luster, and I think Randy said he bought it a long time ago, when gold was cheap.
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  3. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Well done, I do like that Trade Dollar
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  4. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    I'm not surprised about the NGC MS62 crossing to PCGS AU58. You could probably get that same grade again from NGC. It is what it is
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  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Hey brother can you spare a half dime?

    Those nasty carbon spots most probably didn't surface until it was slabbed the 1st time slabbed. That's
    What cost you the difference between the two grades 62 and au 58.
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  6. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Once again LordM, I am indebted to your servitude. Thank you very much!
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  7. lardan

    lardan Supporter! Supporter

    They look great, to me especially that trade dollar.
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  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Hey brother can you spare a half dime?

    Here's a 54 I always felt cheated on.. but its what one can expect from a $10 ea. TPG. Deal... 20230128_081337.jpg 20230128_081411.jpg
  9. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Very nice group of coins. Thanks for narrative showing them.
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  10. BurrosCoins

    BurrosCoins Well-Known Member

    Nice coins. I like the trade dollar and 1904 liberty. Congratulations on the MS70 gold eagle.
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  11. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Seems pretty picky on the 1854 (someone breathed on it) and then not so picky on the trade dollar. Nice varied group of coins.
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  12. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    You did very well, I'll take them all okay. Nice!
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  13. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Very nice. Yeah I don’t see cleaning and the trade definitely high vf. I’d have called it 30 I’d have probably called the $20 a 63. The cheek a little rough but the fields and luster are strong. I’m at 58 on the large cent too
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  14. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member

    I just received my NGC submission back last week and hope to do a similar post showing my results. This was like watching an unboxing video which I love! Glad things worked out quite well with this submission.
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  15. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator


    Correction: I got my Trade dollars mixed up, there. There were two I bought around the same time. One was the aforementioned ANACS VF20 details/cleaned coin, which I cracked out.

    But it turns out that's not the coin here. This one is a different Trade dollar, which I had bought as a raw XF. So it wasn't as big a win as I thought it was, if it had been the ex-ANACS coin (which it’s not).

    I'm into this one for $379.98 plus the slab fees. So rather than it having been a great coup, it's more like I paid full retail for it (if not slightly more). Still, it's a nice coin, and I'm satisfied with it. In the straight VF35 holder, it's good enough for inclusion in my collection.
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