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<p>[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 4395690, member: 105098"]my opinion, "cheerios dollar" is a marketing gimmick, if you want that on your slab, so be it, but I think PCGS or NGC would be right to ask it be submitted with packaging to make it crystal clear it came from Cheerios packaging.</p><p><br /></p><p>However. I believe it is a variety/pattern, and it should be designated and cataloged as one, and not slabbed by the marketing gimmick of Cheerios Dollar.</p><p><br /></p><p> They are listed in the <i>Cherrypicker's Guide</i>, Fourth Edition Volume II, Fivaz and Stanton describe the coin as "Enhanced Reverse Die" and gave it a catalog number of FS-C1-2000P-901.</p><p><br /></p><p>As far as the coin goes, 5500 were struck for Cheerios as giveaways with this reverse, HOWEVER, not every Cheerios dollar that comes out of a cereal box in the packaging had the enhanced reverse. </p><p>It's safe to say that there were some of them that were the normal reverse in the cereal, and likely some of the 5500 with enhanced reverse that went into rolls and to circulation.</p><p><br /></p><p>If it were me, I'd want it identified by the FS number. for the enhanced reverse. There are many slabbed cheerios dollars, I am sure there are some early graded ones with the regular reverse sitting in "Cheerios Dollar" labeled slabs because early on they thought they were all the same until a difference was noticed 5 years after the giveaway ended</p><p><br /></p><p>also I'm not sure if the FS number was changed over the years, I know there was some confusion with the cheerios dollar FS-C1-2000P-901 and the wounded eagle FS-S1-2000P-901. this number may have been changed to reduce confusions (I never understood it, like every coin and year from cent to dollar coins has a FS901)</p><p><br /></p><p>I think PCGS has it two ways, one with only "cheerios dollar" (PCGS #: 411990)</p><p>and the other with "Cheerios dollar" and "FS-902" (PCGS #:147231) in both cases, they required the packaging to grade an encapsulate, just like they do with the 2000 cheerios cents.</p><p><br /></p><p>Personally if I had one I wouldn't be so concerned about it saying "Cheerios dollar" on it as I am that the pattern/variety is attributed correctly. But I get it since it's commonly called, Cheerios dollar, why you'd want it on there for visibility if you went to sell it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Probably ANACS would slab it as "cheerios pattern reverse" but I'm not sure PCGS or NCG will cross it over without having the packaging to prove it came from a cheerios box, because in the end, that's what they required for them to slab them as Cheerios dollars.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 4395690, member: 105098"]my opinion, "cheerios dollar" is a marketing gimmick, if you want that on your slab, so be it, but I think PCGS or NGC would be right to ask it be submitted with packaging to make it crystal clear it came from Cheerios packaging. However. I believe it is a variety/pattern, and it should be designated and cataloged as one, and not slabbed by the marketing gimmick of Cheerios Dollar. They are listed in the [I]Cherrypicker's Guide[/I], Fourth Edition Volume II, Fivaz and Stanton describe the coin as "Enhanced Reverse Die" and gave it a catalog number of FS-C1-2000P-901. As far as the coin goes, 5500 were struck for Cheerios as giveaways with this reverse, HOWEVER, not every Cheerios dollar that comes out of a cereal box in the packaging had the enhanced reverse. It's safe to say that there were some of them that were the normal reverse in the cereal, and likely some of the 5500 with enhanced reverse that went into rolls and to circulation. If it were me, I'd want it identified by the FS number. for the enhanced reverse. There are many slabbed cheerios dollars, I am sure there are some early graded ones with the regular reverse sitting in "Cheerios Dollar" labeled slabs because early on they thought they were all the same until a difference was noticed 5 years after the giveaway ended also I'm not sure if the FS number was changed over the years, I know there was some confusion with the cheerios dollar FS-C1-2000P-901 and the wounded eagle FS-S1-2000P-901. this number may have been changed to reduce confusions (I never understood it, like every coin and year from cent to dollar coins has a FS901) I think PCGS has it two ways, one with only "cheerios dollar" (PCGS #: 411990) and the other with "Cheerios dollar" and "FS-902" (PCGS #:147231) in both cases, they required the packaging to grade an encapsulate, just like they do with the 2000 cheerios cents. Personally if I had one I wouldn't be so concerned about it saying "Cheerios dollar" on it as I am that the pattern/variety is attributed correctly. But I get it since it's commonly called, Cheerios dollar, why you'd want it on there for visibility if you went to sell it. Probably ANACS would slab it as "cheerios pattern reverse" but I'm not sure PCGS or NCG will cross it over without having the packaging to prove it came from a cheerios box, because in the end, that's what they required for them to slab them as Cheerios dollars.[/QUOTE]
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