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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2009855, member: 112&quot;]After re-reading your first post, and then this one, I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re asking us here. </p><p><br /></p><p>In your first post you said - </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now maybe I&#039;m not understanding correctly, but it kind of sounds like you are saying that a given coin, the same coin, could be graded either MS62 or PR62. But it can&#039;t, Proof is not a factor of grading. Proof is method of manufacture. A given coin can either be a Proof and graded whatever, or a coin can be a business strike and graded whatever. But the same coin can&#039;t be graded one or the other, it can only be one of them, depending on if it is a Proof or not.</p><p><br /></p><p>Determining whether a coin is a Proof or a business strike is a completely different thing than grading the coin. Grade has nothing to do with determining the method of manufacture.</p><p><br /></p><p>In regard to the TPGs being inconsistent with their grading, yes that is quite true. They are very inconsistent, even more so with world coins than they are with US coins. I don&#039;t think anybody would argue that. And it is my opinion that they are overly liberal when assigning grades to world coins, more so than with US coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now as to the three coins you posted pictures of, no I would not grade the first as a 66, at least not based on those pictures. Yes the coin is clean and relatively mark free. But it appears to have very subdued luster, I suspect because of the toning, but it does not appear to have sufficient quality of luster to be graded a 66, not in my opinion anyway.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the other two coins, the 64&#039;s, the first has numerous hairlines both obv and rev. The kind of hairlines that are often found on coins that had been previously stored in an old coin cabinet. But it is relatively mark free except for a few rim bruises and tiny rim dings. And I&#039;d have no problem with a 64 grade for that coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>The second 64 however, in my opinion that is a problem coin and not deserving of a grade at all. That coin appears to have been wiped earlier in its life, prior to its toning. It is the wiping of the coin that typically will cause that streaky toning because the wipe disturbs the luster in some places and not in others. And then as the coin tones in later years it shows those streaks of color differentiation that this coin obviously has. On the obv anyway.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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