PCGS rant, rave or WTH?

Some people seem to want it to be true so want to push the idea that something essentially impossible could be true. The fact that you're more inclined to believe something nefarious is going on just says everything

 

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Guys. It's the same coin.

I can and have taken pics of a coin where I can completely make a major hit or bag mark completely disappear and then with slightly different lighting make it light up like a Christmas tree.

When comparing coins from pics with very different lighting and focus like these, you do not look for a mark that you can't find in the other pic - that has absolutely no value whatsoever and proves nothing. What you look for are marks that you can match up between the two photos (keep in mind they may still look different).

 

The image of the first coin is really nice but if you look close it does have some damage albeit very little. The second coin has MANY dings on the cheeks and jaw line. The image is not to bad lighting is a little wonky but it’s in focus and a good subject to compare to the second. The second coin is well lit and in focus. The third image is also the second coin. All images are the original Craigslist posters images. I’ve looked at enough coins under magnification with an old school 15x to 45x power Swift binocular scope. I can say these two coins aren’t the same coin in my opinion. Draw you own conclusions. Reed

 

I think we can argue these pictures forever, but it means little since we cannot verify the pictures portray what the CL poster says they do.

 

See above.

 

Should be John, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

 

Waiting for my "best answer" nomination. (Even though I was wrong in my opinion of it being the same coin) .

 

I'd like to amend my statement that the buyer was "suckered." The seller pretty clearly states this is an example from a roll. He was clearly selling multiple coins.

 

thought was his $10,000 coin he was edited about getting ripped off

 

Wow. So the buyer never looked at the coin after he got it, or while evaluating and preparing/packing it for submission? Seriously?

 

It would appear so.

 

I think you are 1 cheek crease off...

 

I seriously doubt he is a troll. I think he really didn't notice that the seller was selling multiples of the coin in the pic. So he bought it based on the pics, and sent it to PCGS hoping for a 67 FS. So not a troll, just a fool.

 

A fool doesn’t have to be a troll, but a troll always is a fool.

 

I can buy into that line of thinking
Reed

 

Those bust stops are really something!!

 

I’d say that settles it. Nice find! End of discussion.

I nominated you.

If he was complaining that the PCGS grading system was a complete scam, then yeah, he’s a fool. But he’s claiming PCGS stole the coin and swapped it. He’s an old-fashioned troll/scammer.

 

Now, he could still be a fool but not a scammer. If you don't know that you're lying, is it really a scam?

 

Nefarious on part of PCGS? I’m more inclined to believe that the guy is the one being nefarious here than PCGS. Do I believe that PCGS can do no wrong? No, but I believe they bet more right than wrong.