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<p>[QUOTE="EyeEatWheaties, post: 978523, member: 26972"]Yes, I am very nutty. no doubt.. I am also self centered, a narcissist at heart, greedy, I have a compulsive obsession disorder along with attention deficit problems and I am in the midst of an unemployed middle aged crisis just top it all off.. I rock!</p><p><br /></p><p>IMO - Values are determined by what the market can bear. You want to look at the most popular sellers and see what they are getting, then figure out how to offer more for the same amount or less. Not to digress to much, a big part of my profession was in New Home sales from the product development side. Not the marketing side.</p><p><br /></p><p>Chris, I get and understand what you are saying. keep in mind that my opinion on this, is based on my observations on the huge amount of coin listings on a daily basis..... regardless whether the practices are viewed by seasoned collectors and professionals as something derogatory, that by shear volume alone - (whether it be "right or wrong") it is what it is. That that (Feebay) is the largest coin market there by many times over. correct? Therefore since this is the largest market/venue.. I think it can be safely assumed that what goes on there is the norm and anything else is a minority niche or anexception?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I should mention to everyone again that when I post.... Please keep in mind, that I am a new, long time (35 collector/hoarder). "new" meaning that I never have used the internet to buy coins or learn about them until recently. I never had/made the time. You know those little bothersome things like job, kids, wife, pets, mortgages, cars, lawn care and maintenance, other hobbies, just kept getting in the way of my true calling :~ </p><p><br /></p><p>I feel strongly <i><b>that I have a fresh view point</b></i> and since I do have a vested interest in both what I own and amount of time spent over the last year...... Are you ready for this? Get ready to get mad! lol That the vocal, like this board and others, are mostly ran by those who's primary concern is to protect the value of their investments. Now.. going waaaaaaaay out on a limb... this vocal bunch is becoming the minority with in the coin collecting world. A dying breed?</p><p><br /></p><p>Maybe as an example from this weekend:</p><p><br /></p><p>I Just watched a guy recently sell(ing) his PCGS registered wheatie set (#15) on eBay - What is interesting is that obviously, he had spent a lot of time and money building the collection - <b>why would he use eBay - why is he selling it? </b> He put some of the coins up for Auction so I guess.. so he could attract attention to his Buy it now listings? Those auctions closed at 60% of the PCGS value. I sent him 2 polite messages asking why he was selling. No answer.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lets play catch. I'll throw the first ball. Lets use this analogy.</p><p><br /></p><p>The world is full of mint bags of gems. You can find them everywhere. but isn't it also true that Mint bags can be full of grossly spotted and toned, dinged to death gems. The question becomes. is it up to the buyer to ask questions first, or is it up to the seller to openly declare every little nuance? After all a gem is also a rock. is it not? Where would you rather buy a mint bag? From someone who is a professional or seasoned collector or from a place with super stringent with policies that assure buyer satisfaction?</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is another one.</p><p><br /></p><p>Naomi thought she was getting some huge sparklers and all she got were some dirty little pebbles. Imagine how proud the grantor was to pass these beauties on, only to hear later that she thought they were worthless..[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="EyeEatWheaties, post: 978523, member: 26972"]Yes, I am very nutty. no doubt.. I am also self centered, a narcissist at heart, greedy, I have a compulsive obsession disorder along with attention deficit problems and I am in the midst of an unemployed middle aged crisis just top it all off.. I rock! IMO - Values are determined by what the market can bear. You want to look at the most popular sellers and see what they are getting, then figure out how to offer more for the same amount or less. Not to digress to much, a big part of my profession was in New Home sales from the product development side. Not the marketing side. Chris, I get and understand what you are saying. keep in mind that my opinion on this, is based on my observations on the huge amount of coin listings on a daily basis..... regardless whether the practices are viewed by seasoned collectors and professionals as something derogatory, that by shear volume alone - (whether it be "right or wrong") it is what it is. That that (Feebay) is the largest coin market there by many times over. correct? Therefore since this is the largest market/venue.. I think it can be safely assumed that what goes on there is the norm and anything else is a minority niche or anexception? I should mention to everyone again that when I post.... Please keep in mind, that I am a new, long time (35 collector/hoarder). "new" meaning that I never have used the internet to buy coins or learn about them until recently. I never had/made the time. You know those little bothersome things like job, kids, wife, pets, mortgages, cars, lawn care and maintenance, other hobbies, just kept getting in the way of my true calling :~ I feel strongly [I][B]that I have a fresh view point[/B][/I] and since I do have a vested interest in both what I own and amount of time spent over the last year...... Are you ready for this? Get ready to get mad! lol That the vocal, like this board and others, are mostly ran by those who's primary concern is to protect the value of their investments. Now.. going waaaaaaaay out on a limb... this vocal bunch is becoming the minority with in the coin collecting world. A dying breed? Maybe as an example from this weekend: I Just watched a guy recently sell(ing) his PCGS registered wheatie set (#15) on eBay - What is interesting is that obviously, he had spent a lot of time and money building the collection - [B]why would he use eBay - why is he selling it? [/B] He put some of the coins up for Auction so I guess.. so he could attract attention to his Buy it now listings? Those auctions closed at 60% of the PCGS value. I sent him 2 polite messages asking why he was selling. No answer. Lets play catch. I'll throw the first ball. Lets use this analogy. The world is full of mint bags of gems. You can find them everywhere. but isn't it also true that Mint bags can be full of grossly spotted and toned, dinged to death gems. The question becomes. is it up to the buyer to ask questions first, or is it up to the seller to openly declare every little nuance? After all a gem is also a rock. is it not? Where would you rather buy a mint bag? From someone who is a professional or seasoned collector or from a place with super stringent with policies that assure buyer satisfaction? Here is another one. Naomi thought she was getting some huge sparklers and all she got were some dirty little pebbles. Imagine how proud the grantor was to pass these beauties on, only to hear later that she thought they were worthless..[/QUOTE]
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