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Message:: [QUOTE="EyeAppealingCoins, post: 4523830, member: 96749"]Historically NGC has been stricter on strike designations. The FT requires complete separation of horizontal bands and vertical bands for Roosevelt Dimes. PCGS'S FB designation requires separation of horizontal bands. The FS designation at PCGS requires 5 full steps (except for ultra, ultra moderns) where at NGC it was 6 steps. In April 2003, NGC abandoned its FS designation in favor of 5FS and 6FS designations respectively. The FB designation at NGC for Mercury Dimes required full rounded bands where as long as there was separation, it would typically FB at PCGS. The FBL designation requires separation of upper and lower bell lines at NGC where as the CAC and PCGS definition requires only the bottom bands. On other designations: For RD copper PCGS requires 95%+ percent full red; 5%< RB < 95%, and BN is <5%. NGC's threshold I have seen published and confirmed with David Lange was 90% full red (as low as 85% for some issues). Anything lower down to 5% RD is RB. <5% is BN.  In practice, neither is consistent with copper color designations. Not all of it is from coins turning in holders in my opinion and experience. For cameo contrasts, theoretically NGC's CAM and PCGS CAM are equivalent by definition as our NGC's UCAM and PCGS DCAM definitions. In my opinion (shared by many dealers with cameo coins that regularly sell both), NGC had been historically looser and allowed breaks in frost that would have disqualified coins at PCGS. For older coins, the PCGS population reports and NGC Census mirror those observations with exceptions. For PL and DMPL/DPL, both services have tightened their standards. Many OGH/rattler and no line fatty coins would not PL or DMPL today. I have seen DPL/DMPL coins that wouldn't PL today.[/QUOTE]

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