PCGS/NGC Holders. Is there a site that lists their progression through the years?

BTW the edge view inserts have been around since at least 2007 When the Prez. dollars came out.



BTW yes they have been mostly in use in Europe until recently about the first of the year PCGS changed over to using them all the time there have been several discussions about the change on the CU Forum.

 

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Four or five years ago something like this wouldn't have mattered to me. Funny how the more you learn about things the more you want to learn more about things......put me on the list for that new edition as well.

 

Just FYI, in the case of PCGS slabs, there is a certain prestige and value associated with the "old green holder" first and second generation slabs. Those coins are sometimes under graded, as PCGS was wildly strict back in the '80s. You will see them as "OGH" in advertisements. The very first green ones are called "rattlers," as the coin was not tight set in the slab and would often rattle. Once again, they do have some collectibility value in addition to the coin value. Here is my 1880s PL Morgan in an "OGH."

 

Yeah, and there's a school of thought that says all the one worth crackin' out have already been picked through.

 

This is true. I never crack out any of them. Occasionally you can luck out though, especially with Morgans as they are so subjective to grade. Especially not DMPLs or PLs. I sent them for upgrade, and am batting about .500. Three upgrades recently, and three remain the same in a new holder.

 

Personally, I like the old green holders.......

 

I like the old holders too but I follow the well known axiom "buy the coin, not the holder".
As Yes many of the good ones have been picked over but the other side is that not all of them have

 

I answered this question on the PCGS edgeviews somewhere yesterday. Basically the PCGS edgeview was first used back in 2007 but only for the President dollars and then in 2009 for the NA dollars as well. About eight or nine months ago they began using them for all submissions at the PCGS European office. They started using them for denominations other than the small dollars at the US office around the first of this year and they are slowly being phased in as existing stocks of the older inserts are exhausted. Just as NGC did several years ago with their edgeviews.

The solid green labels actually started with the PCGS 3.5 slab in Dec 1989. This was a very short lived transitional slab using the last of the "Slab within a frame" shells and the labels we became familiar with with the PCGS 4 slabs. These early green label slabs can be found in a multitude of colors because as Doug said the pigments in the ink were not colorfast and broke down over time and with exposure to light. These early green labels can be recognized by their large font serial numbers that start at the left edge of the barcode. In mid 1995 they solved the color fastness problem and created PCGS 5. These lasted until Nov 1998. they can be recognized by their smaller font size in the serial number and the serial number starts well to the right of the left edge of the barcode.

 

Thanks for chiming in Conder. So when's the newest edition of your book coming out?

 

This one showed up in my mailbox today. It's a PCGS 7 sample slab for the PCGS 4 series slabs. Many thanks to Condor and sampleslabs for helping me identify the slab.