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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3724385, member: 112"]Uhhhh, that's not exactly true. That's merely what the pop numbers they show <u>now</u> say. The pop numbers on their website, they change those all the time.</p><p><br /></p><p>By the end of 2003 PCGS had graded 470 Lincoln cents as MS69 - and no 70s. By the beginning of 2006 they had graded 1,209 Lincoln cents as MS69, and they had graded 15 of them as MS70. And in the years that followed, those numbers increased substantially. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is written in black and white in their own publications, the paper copies of the the pop reports that I showed previously. And no, not in the pics I posted above, those pics only show the summaries. But they do show those exact numbers in the individual listings. And the paper copies, they can't change them at will like they do on their website. Once published it's out there.</p><p><br /></p><p>Did ya ever wonder why PCGS changed their policy on guaranteeing the grade of copper coins ? You do know they no longer guarantee the grade - don't you ? Well this is why. They got so much flack over what they were doing from people who know coins, and saw what they were doing - that they simply had to change things. </p><p><br /></p><p>So what'd they do ? They began buying up the high grade coins, under their guarantee, and downgrading them. And once they had 'em all cleaned up, their guarantee went poof !</p><p><br /></p><p>And it wasn't just PCGS, NGC did their thing too. This book, published in Aug. of 2004 -</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Grading-Guide-Modern-U-S-Coins/dp/0794819109" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.amazon.com/Grading-Guide-Modern-U-S-Coins/dp/0794819109" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Grading-Guide-Modern-U-S-Coins/dp/0794819109</a></p><p><br /></p><p>It list all the pops for NGC slabbed coins, granted, modern coins only - which they defined as dated '65 and later. The pops they listed in the book were only for coins they had graded by the end of 2003. There's a grand total of 22 Lincoln cents graded as MS69 - and no 70s. By the end of 2004, those numbers had skyrocketed and included 70s !</p><p><br /></p><p>That's the thing about paper copies of pop reports, they tell ya things the TPGs would really rather you didn't know. But it took 'em a little bit to figure that out and stop publishing paper copies of their pop reports. Luckily for them, very few people have those paper copies. Unluckily for them, there's a few people like me.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3724385, member: 112"]Uhhhh, that's not exactly true. That's merely what the pop numbers they show [U]now[/U] say. The pop numbers on their website, they change those all the time. By the end of 2003 PCGS had graded 470 Lincoln cents as MS69 - and no 70s. By the beginning of 2006 they had graded 1,209 Lincoln cents as MS69, and they had graded 15 of them as MS70. And in the years that followed, those numbers increased substantially. This is written in black and white in their own publications, the paper copies of the the pop reports that I showed previously. And no, not in the pics I posted above, those pics only show the summaries. But they do show those exact numbers in the individual listings. And the paper copies, they can't change them at will like they do on their website. Once published it's out there. Did ya ever wonder why PCGS changed their policy on guaranteeing the grade of copper coins ? You do know they no longer guarantee the grade - don't you ? Well this is why. They got so much flack over what they were doing from people who know coins, and saw what they were doing - that they simply had to change things. So what'd they do ? They began buying up the high grade coins, under their guarantee, and downgrading them. And once they had 'em all cleaned up, their guarantee went poof ! And it wasn't just PCGS, NGC did their thing too. This book, published in Aug. of 2004 - [URL]https://www.amazon.com/Grading-Guide-Modern-U-S-Coins/dp/0794819109[/URL] It list all the pops for NGC slabbed coins, granted, modern coins only - which they defined as dated '65 and later. The pops they listed in the book were only for coins they had graded by the end of 2003. There's a grand total of 22 Lincoln cents graded as MS69 - and no 70s. By the end of 2004, those numbers had skyrocketed and included 70s ! That's the thing about paper copies of pop reports, they tell ya things the TPGs would really rather you didn't know. But it took 'em a little bit to figure that out and stop publishing paper copies of their pop reports. Luckily for them, very few people have those paper copies. Unluckily for them, there's a few people like me.[/QUOTE]
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