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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Speedy, post: 183468, member: 705&quot;]No it is not ethical---but not many things are today---and while I agree I also think that as I think I’ve heard you say before—this is a free county and anyone can price or pay for an item as much as they want too---even if it is nuts.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I’m not trying to justify SGS---what I’m trying to do is find out what makes a grading company?…SGS is a bunch of crooks and I wish they weren’t around…but wishing something doesn’t make it come about---I would love to educate more people about SGS and I think this Forum is doing a pretty darn good job at that….they are hurting the hobby---but no more than PCGS or NGC….lets think about the First Strikes---that is about as much hog wash as PF70 grade from SGS---and just as many people fell for it…but yet NGC and PCGS both are still grading companies….so where does the line get drawn??</p><p>&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>this is what hasn’t been made plain….what makes a grading company and what doesn’t?….what must one do to start company that grades coins?…..what kind of rules and standers must one have? What makes a grading company “legitimate” and what makes one not “legitimate”……I think you will see what I mean---people think that as long as there is a grade on a hard case holder it’s a grading company---and that isn’t far off---but where is the line drawn?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is what I don&#039;t get---PCGS and NGC are just as much crooks as the other fly by nights in many ways---I agree with Doug---the collectors need to band together and get a grading set to be stander---and we must use one---as long as we have PCGS&#039;s way and NGC&#039;s way and the ANA&#039;s way and SGS&#039;s way we are in one sad shape.</p><p><br /></p><p>Speedy[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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