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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3111800, member: 24314"]<span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 89)">TypeCoin971793, posted: "Care to enlighten us what the die markers for a 1916 P dime are?"</span></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie66" alt=":muted:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> They are kept secret. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie105" alt=":yuck:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>PS However, anyone who sees enough 1916-P dimes and records what they see could begin to answer you question. For example, some of these coins were struck with broken dies. Now as for usefulness, diagnostics for 1916-P dimes are just interesting, useless, "fluff." The diagnostics for 1916-D dimes are the important ones to know.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 89)">JayF, posted: "Companies have different procedures, how to authenticate a coin probably has the same steps with all TPGs but how a company applies it is a totally different process. Like did PCGS checked for die markers for this particular coin? <b>I read there is possibly a die marker for the 1916 dime so I was curious if PCGS used it to identify the coin.</b> Also, he said "may or may not be" so there's still a question of whether it's a mistake or not, based on his response."</span></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Unfortunately, something was not made clear <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> enough for you in this discussion. You seem like a pretty smart guy so I'm sure you will figure out what's going on - eventually. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie14" alt=":angelic:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 89)">"BTW, did you report this to PCGS already? Since you stated it's OUR job to police these types of "mistakes"</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 89)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><b>Nope. </b>Absolutely not. I work for a TPGS. The more the image of PCGS is tarnished <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie96" alt=":vomit:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />, the better for me. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> The off-center strike with no date is nothing.</span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 89)">NumisNinja, posted: "But at the same time, you can't definitively say it's NOT full bands. Just like you can't say it's not a 1916D. The inherrent nature of offset coins is that they come from a die which may have only left partial indication of what the coin actually is. You can question the grader's grounds for his designation of that coin, but you can't prove he's absolutely wrong either.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 89)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie92" alt=":stop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Please! This is an example of why I have <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie40" alt=":dead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><br /></span></p><p>[USER=94566]@NumisNinja[/USER] I have it on good authority <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> that <b><i><u>the coin is actually a 1920-D FSB Mercury dime!</u></i></b> Get the point? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3111800, member: 24314"][COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 89)]TypeCoin971793, posted: "Care to enlighten us what the die markers for a 1916 P dime are?"[/COLOR] :rolleyes::D:muted: They are kept secret. :smuggrin::yuck: PS However, anyone who sees enough 1916-P dimes and records what they see could begin to answer you question. For example, some of these coins were struck with broken dies. Now as for usefulness, diagnostics for 1916-P dimes are just interesting, useless, "fluff." The diagnostics for 1916-D dimes are the important ones to know. [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 89)]JayF, posted: "Companies have different procedures, how to authenticate a coin probably has the same steps with all TPGs but how a company applies it is a totally different process. Like did PCGS checked for die markers for this particular coin? [B]I read there is possibly a die marker for the 1916 dime so I was curious if PCGS used it to identify the coin.[/B] Also, he said "may or may not be" so there's still a question of whether it's a mistake or not, based on his response."[/COLOR] :facepalm: Unfortunately, something was not made clear :confused: enough for you in this discussion. You seem like a pretty smart guy so I'm sure you will figure out what's going on - eventually. :angelic:;) [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 89)]"BTW, did you report this to PCGS already? Since you stated it's OUR job to police these types of "mistakes" [/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)][B]Nope. [/B]Absolutely not. I work for a TPGS. The more the image of PCGS is tarnished :vomit:, the better for me. :jawdrop: The off-center strike with no date is nothing.[/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 89)]NumisNinja, posted: "But at the same time, you can't definitively say it's NOT full bands. Just like you can't say it's not a 1916D. The inherrent nature of offset coins is that they come from a die which may have only left partial indication of what the coin actually is. You can question the grader's grounds for his designation of that coin, but you can't prove he's absolutely wrong either. [/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]:stop: Please! This is an example of why I have :dead:. [/COLOR] [USER=94566]@NumisNinja[/USER] I have it on good authority :bookworm: :cigar: that [B][I][U]the coin is actually a 1920-D FSB Mercury dime![/U][/I][/B] Get the point? :D[/QUOTE]
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