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Message:: [QUOTE="Richard1972, post: 399647, member: 14172"]I have not done that much submitting(perhaps about 100 coins in my entire lifetime.) What I can say is i submitted 10 coins at one time to PCGS in slabs for regrading and they all came back the same(some were PC and Some were NG.) I then sent all those coins back raw and I think all but 2 came back at different grades. TPGS's are not likely to upgrade a coin wheather it's their coin or not. If it's their coin and they upgrade it, they are admitting they made a mistake in the first place. If it's someone elses coin, they are admitting thier grading is not as strict. As far as your 1880-0 Morgans goes, I can't tell by that image why it would not be 65 or even AU. Does it have a finger print on it? This is an automatic preclusion to MS65. Also, look at the pop report for that coin. PCGS has certified only about 20 or so in 65. In my opinion, they are going to make damn sure it's not only a 65 but a really soild 65 before they want to add it to their pop report.[/QUOTE]