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<p>[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 2585695, member: 36230"]In this case, yes, one most certainly can blame the buyer. Take a look at the listings and do notice how they CLEARLY state they do "not guarantee grades on raw coins, and that they "guarantee authenticity only"? This matters and is there for a very good reason. If a buyer chooses to ignore it, they rightfully have no reason to place blame upon anyone other than themselves.</p><p><br /></p><p> I understand your point, yes, and agree that their approach may be deceptive, but responsibility rests with the buyer to know and understand what they're purchasing. All too often today, and especially on this forum, the crutch of "deception" and/or "misrepresentation" is used as an excuse for poor buying decisions, and for the benefit of both this hobby needs to stop.</p><p><br /></p><p>No matter how often many of us press the issue of learning/knowledge, the fact is many buyers/collectors, for many and sometimes completely reasonable/valid reasons, choose not to and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. However, when one makes the decision not to learn, it's their responsibility to take a path which allows them to buy safely and wisely. Unfortunately though, such paths usually come at a cost, and is the very reason so many choose to avoid them, instead rolling the dice as if they can magically outsmart those possessing the very knowledge they've chosen to avoid. When one without the necessary knowledge to do so chooses to buy raw and plans to submit, it is almost always as a way to get a deal or to avoid paying what they otherwise would have to in order to get what they want. How many times on this very board have we seen someone take this approach, as if they're the first ones to think of it, and utterly fail? We need stop making excuses for them and instead try to get them to see the folly of their actions. I realize doing so may come off as negative or not nice, but sometimes the greater good requires a little "tough friendship" as opposed to handholding.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 2585695, member: 36230"]In this case, yes, one most certainly can blame the buyer. Take a look at the listings and do notice how they CLEARLY state they do "not guarantee grades on raw coins, and that they "guarantee authenticity only"? This matters and is there for a very good reason. If a buyer chooses to ignore it, they rightfully have no reason to place blame upon anyone other than themselves. I understand your point, yes, and agree that their approach may be deceptive, but responsibility rests with the buyer to know and understand what they're purchasing. All too often today, and especially on this forum, the crutch of "deception" and/or "misrepresentation" is used as an excuse for poor buying decisions, and for the benefit of both this hobby needs to stop. No matter how often many of us press the issue of learning/knowledge, the fact is many buyers/collectors, for many and sometimes completely reasonable/valid reasons, choose not to and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. However, when one makes the decision not to learn, it's their responsibility to take a path which allows them to buy safely and wisely. Unfortunately though, such paths usually come at a cost, and is the very reason so many choose to avoid them, instead rolling the dice as if they can magically outsmart those possessing the very knowledge they've chosen to avoid. When one without the necessary knowledge to do so chooses to buy raw and plans to submit, it is almost always as a way to get a deal or to avoid paying what they otherwise would have to in order to get what they want. How many times on this very board have we seen someone take this approach, as if they're the first ones to think of it, and utterly fail? We need stop making excuses for them and instead try to get them to see the folly of their actions. I realize doing so may come off as negative or not nice, but sometimes the greater good requires a little "tough friendship" as opposed to handholding.[/QUOTE]
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