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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;mhinchley, post: 5173, member: 689&quot;]I have a copy of the blue book and red book among others.&nbsp; Now for ACCGS.&nbsp; Well this first attept did not go well.&nbsp; I received their MS65/MS65 1878 CC yesterday.&nbsp; The reverse was indeed to me a 65....but the obverse had a rather deep scratch at 1 o&#039;clock about 1/8 inch in lenght, besides what appeared to be a couple knicks on the outer rim edge (hard to tell in the slab). It also had a few too many scuff marks and ticks overall on the obverse. It was atleast a rather lustrious coin, with a solid strike, but that is all I can say in the positive of the obverse anyway.&nbsp; I returned the coin to the place I purchased from immediately.&nbsp; I should have scanned it, but I was too ticked off in the moment.&nbsp; They offered to down grade a MS66 to &quot;meet my stricter standards&quot;, rather than refund, if I so chose.&nbsp; I have mixed feelings, but for the sake of knowing the results, I agreed on a one time basis.&nbsp; If I don&#039;t accept, and decided to return the next, my business with them will cease.&nbsp; Any hopes of ever using the grading service were dashed all together already, but they are seperate from the business in which I made the purchase of the coin (as far as I know anyway).&nbsp; Other bad news, I sold the ICG 1880-S ICG MS67 I was going to have cross graded by PCGS, so that is a mute issue. I did just buy an ICG MS65 1897-S.&nbsp; If that does not sell within a week or so I will have that one cross graded along with some raw coins I have.&nbsp; So will let you know when the events unfold.&nbsp; I buy ICG coins all the time, since they are undervalued in my opinion...so eventually I will get some of them cross graded.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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