PCGS graded cent struck on screw 64+

This makes extra sense since the end was outside the coining chamber, it has a Full Head.

 

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Spiked chin variety, nice coin!

 

ONE of the spiked chin varieties, there are four of them C-5,6,7, and 8. (there is also C-3 which is C-5 before the obv struck the bolt) The one in the picture is a C-5 the first use of the die after it struck the bolt. The threads fade out on the later varieties. And that is NOT my coin it is from the Missouri Cabinet collection, the finest, and only complete set of Cohen varieties ever assembled.

 

Are they grading the screw or the coin and I thought that they did not grade coins that were to damaged maybe I will send them my avatar coin.

 

I’m just saying. Why not just label it mint error struck on screw uncirculated how can you actually give a numeric grade to something that’s not a complete coin

 

I should try and check my spike chin. Not sure the variety. Is au55

 

I agree. And maybe that is what ANACS meant with my struck fragment. MS60 doesnt get thrown around a lot so maybe they used that as an abbreviation for Unc.

As far as PCGS giving the screw 64+, my question is, did they actually look at it that long under a loupe and decide the struck portion appeared better than most 64's that come around? Probably not. The grade is a joke. But it doesnt exactly set the value of the piece either so who cares what they graded it. Maybe they should have called it MS70. God knows it most likely wasnt mixed with other planchets and there is the argument that screw was specifically placed in the press, so why not call it a perfectly struck screw lol.

The PCGS grade has to be a blatant joke just like the mint employee who made it lol.

 

The same way you grade any coin, by the amount of wear it has received, and if there is no wear you figure in strike quality and contact marks. This piece has no wear so it is MS and the level of MS is determined by contact marks. (I don't grade over AU from images so someone else will have to determine what it should be from strike and marks.)

 

This screw is undoubtably the most unique piece to come about since the nail, but the screw is likely saying something far different about the employee who struck it. Why a screw? Why not some other metal object that would give far more completeness and clarity? I think it was more likely a disgruntled government employee (likely long deceased) making a statement like "Screw the government". Does anyone know when it was struck? Or maybe a random 'screw' just happened to fall off the press and land between the die at just the right time. Guess we will never know . . .

 

looks like an Egyptian

 

It should have gone into the scrap bucket and destroyed.
I mean this wasn't found in circulation? Although it could have been
discovered in a mint bag. But barring that, it's junk. If intentionally made and
taken out of the mint, while not an illegal coin, it's still illegal.

 

Some of us don't consider them to be. I personally have zero interest in this sort of stuff. There are legitimate errors of strike throughs and struck on, but something like this struck on a screw, or the dime struck on a nail a couple of years ago are just ridiculous.

On the other hand, there are a lot of people willing to spend a lot of money on things like this. So, I guess you have to decide for yourself...

 

Yep,

Just always curious to know how these things actually get out?!?! You ask 10 people you get 10 different explanations.

 

@Islander80-83 I bet you these get out by employees/former employees

 

Unique and unlikely mint 'errors' that likely never made it out of the mint through regular means, yet do, are to some as unique as the 1944 steel wheat. 'Why' the error was struck, has fascinated me more than how legitimately it was struck, or how it made it out of the mint. They each tell a story, each with unique circumstances that range from the pure accident to the sinister. But either way, they exist and tell a story of the past, which makes each mint 'error' truly intriguing to me. This screw even more so. Curious what story this screw/cent has to tell?

 

So you're saying you consider this a true United States Mint Error Coin? I guess it is because PCGS says it is! What story does it tell? Is there a true documented story behind these or just speculation?