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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1066854, member: 26302"]Well, if TPGers are "supplementing" ANA standards, please read the ANA definition of Mint State and reconcile that with TPG admission that circulated coins freely get slabbed as MS 61-63 nowadays. Seems to me that TPGers are making up their own definition of mint state, along with other changes to standards. They say they guarantee a grade, but if they themselves are making up the definition what guarantee is that?</p><p><br /></p><p>I do say that slabbing to prove a coin is not a forgery is a benefit, especially in some areas of ancients. That is not what TPGing is doing in the ancient field, though. They are imposing their own grading standards, based on US standards, on a field that has its own standards and has been using them before colonists were shooting turkeys here. That offends me, and any MS61 or AU ancient coin I can buy just to bandsaw away that slab I consider a victory. Ancients are not fragile little modern coins, they do not have a delicate patina that needs protecting by encapsulation, or a MS 70 designation that would be ruined by a fingerprint.</p><p><br /></p><p>I started in US coins, still have a sizable collection in the bank. I know a lot about US coins, as hopefully I have demonstrated on this board. I started before PCGS was around, saw them come in, look promising, grow, and then break every promise they made to the industry, (never slab moderns, never grade a 70, never give MS to a circulate coin, never change grading standards, etc). That is my perspective.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1066854, member: 26302"]Well, if TPGers are "supplementing" ANA standards, please read the ANA definition of Mint State and reconcile that with TPG admission that circulated coins freely get slabbed as MS 61-63 nowadays. Seems to me that TPGers are making up their own definition of mint state, along with other changes to standards. They say they guarantee a grade, but if they themselves are making up the definition what guarantee is that? I do say that slabbing to prove a coin is not a forgery is a benefit, especially in some areas of ancients. That is not what TPGing is doing in the ancient field, though. They are imposing their own grading standards, based on US standards, on a field that has its own standards and has been using them before colonists were shooting turkeys here. That offends me, and any MS61 or AU ancient coin I can buy just to bandsaw away that slab I consider a victory. Ancients are not fragile little modern coins, they do not have a delicate patina that needs protecting by encapsulation, or a MS 70 designation that would be ruined by a fingerprint. I started in US coins, still have a sizable collection in the bank. I know a lot about US coins, as hopefully I have demonstrated on this board. I started before PCGS was around, saw them come in, look promising, grow, and then break every promise they made to the industry, (never slab moderns, never grade a 70, never give MS to a circulate coin, never change grading standards, etc). That is my perspective.[/QUOTE]
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