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<p>[QUOTE="bahabully, post: 1066740, member: 17555"]good points... I do think TPG's offer a service in this knock-off nafta world, and I'd never consider purchasing a raw BU 1909S VDB cent, or other high grade $$$$ coin unless it was certified (and I verified the TPG holder also). And for "Very" high $ coins in the 5 figure range, I'd only purchase from reputable dealers.... just too much downside if you get burned there.</p><p>As to TPG accuracy, it's probably closer than I could do from coin to coin given the subjectivity of grading, so yield to thier grades. That said, I have noticed differernce's between grading services where one may grade more conservatively than the other.... and I adjust my buying patterns and what I pay for each accordingly.... This sometimes presents opportunity $$ as a collector, and makes the hobby more interesting and fun (at least to me). I use to LOVE searching through the SEGS, PCI, etc. holders on the 'bay years ago.. and have many "undergraded" coins in those holders because folks didn't appreciate thier ability to undergrade as well as overgrade (which was thier bias). Anyway, ask an old dealer what he'd give for a 1934-D MS66 cent graded by NGC, and then for one by PCGS.... there's a difference. The only gripe I have is that it's so well known, so little potential for us collectors to play the variability to our advantage..... bring on more TPG's !!! the more variability, the BETTER !!</p><p> </p><p>To truely drive out variability the TPG's would have to create more definitive grading criteria,,, it's toooo subjective now. Grades should be delimited by specific attributes which are "measurable" (nics by #, location, magnitude.... strike by relief in distance to field from specific locations on the design.... luster by lumen's of reflection at given angels.. etc..) These attributes could be validated by a collector if desired, and the TPG's held accountable to them. The downside: Expensive new measuring equipment, set up and associated operator training, TPG grader's would have to spend more than 30 seconds per coin.. so grading services would likely go even further north (if that's possible ; ).... but from a grading "purity" standpoint, that's the best I can think of.,,,, maybe toss in a star class also, to provide for the "eye appeal" and other subjective attributes.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="bahabully, post: 1066740, member: 17555"]good points... I do think TPG's offer a service in this knock-off nafta world, and I'd never consider purchasing a raw BU 1909S VDB cent, or other high grade $$$$ coin unless it was certified (and I verified the TPG holder also). And for "Very" high $ coins in the 5 figure range, I'd only purchase from reputable dealers.... just too much downside if you get burned there. As to TPG accuracy, it's probably closer than I could do from coin to coin given the subjectivity of grading, so yield to thier grades. That said, I have noticed differernce's between grading services where one may grade more conservatively than the other.... and I adjust my buying patterns and what I pay for each accordingly.... This sometimes presents opportunity $$ as a collector, and makes the hobby more interesting and fun (at least to me). I use to LOVE searching through the SEGS, PCI, etc. holders on the 'bay years ago.. and have many "undergraded" coins in those holders because folks didn't appreciate thier ability to undergrade as well as overgrade (which was thier bias). Anyway, ask an old dealer what he'd give for a 1934-D MS66 cent graded by NGC, and then for one by PCGS.... there's a difference. The only gripe I have is that it's so well known, so little potential for us collectors to play the variability to our advantage..... bring on more TPG's !!! the more variability, the BETTER !! To truely drive out variability the TPG's would have to create more definitive grading criteria,,, it's toooo subjective now. Grades should be delimited by specific attributes which are "measurable" (nics by #, location, magnitude.... strike by relief in distance to field from specific locations on the design.... luster by lumen's of reflection at given angels.. etc..) These attributes could be validated by a collector if desired, and the TPG's held accountable to them. The downside: Expensive new measuring equipment, set up and associated operator training, TPG grader's would have to spend more than 30 seconds per coin.. so grading services would likely go even further north (if that's possible ; ).... but from a grading "purity" standpoint, that's the best I can think of.,,,, maybe toss in a star class also, to provide for the "eye appeal" and other subjective attributes.[/QUOTE]
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