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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1066657, member: 112"]Why what ? Why is it ludicrous ? Simple. The premise of the thread is that PCGS provides higher grades to the coins submitted by large dealers than it does to say you as a private individual or a small dealer. Is that not correct ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Well, I say that idea is ludicrous for a couple of reasons. First and foremost would be that those who assign the grades, the professional graders doing the actual grading, have no idea at all who it was that submitted any coin or coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>Another reason I say the idea is ludicrous is because the large dealers who are supposedly receiving these grading favors are most often the ones doing the most complaining that the coins they submitted were under-graded ! </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, it is not evidence of anything. But it does go to point out that it would be unlikely for me to defend the TPGs when I am one of their biggest detractors, does it not ?</p><p><br /></p><p>As for my comment about talking to them being exaggerated opinion, it isn't opinion at all. It is fact. For anyone who has spent time talking to the larger dealers would know that they are the biggest complainers there are about their coins being under-graded. And they do this complaining about the TPGs under-grading their coins not only verbally but in written form as well.</p><p><br /></p><p>So you tell me, if they were receiving grading favors, is it likely they would complain so much ? I think not.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes they do. But I know of no respectable dealer who uses these services. For that matter I know of no respectable collector who uses them either. You even mentioning such services does nothing to support your argument. On the contrary it hurts your argument for these services you mention are not even considered to be legitimate grading companies.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Then why would you make claims that seem to say that you agree with the premise of the thread ? That being that PCGS favors big name dealers ?</p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>An established fact that some do WHAT exactly ? Hand out favors ? Or that the TPGs are in business to make money ?</p><p><br /></p><p>First of all the subject of this thread is PCGS and that PCGS hands out grading favors to large dealers. That is specifically what I am saying is ludicrous. And I have stated my reasons for saying it is ludicrous - it's not just because I say so.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>As I have stated above - first of all the graders have no idea at all who is submitting any given coin. So it is impossible for them to hand out grading favors. And this is true of NGC and PCGS. That is a cold hard fact - not an opinion.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1066657, member: 112"]Why what ? Why is it ludicrous ? Simple. The premise of the thread is that PCGS provides higher grades to the coins submitted by large dealers than it does to say you as a private individual or a small dealer. Is that not correct ? Well, I say that idea is ludicrous for a couple of reasons. First and foremost would be that those who assign the grades, the professional graders doing the actual grading, have no idea at all who it was that submitted any coin or coins. Another reason I say the idea is ludicrous is because the large dealers who are supposedly receiving these grading favors are most often the ones doing the most complaining that the coins they submitted were under-graded ! No, it is not evidence of anything. But it does go to point out that it would be unlikely for me to defend the TPGs when I am one of their biggest detractors, does it not ? As for my comment about talking to them being exaggerated opinion, it isn't opinion at all. It is fact. For anyone who has spent time talking to the larger dealers would know that they are the biggest complainers there are about their coins being under-graded. And they do this complaining about the TPGs under-grading their coins not only verbally but in written form as well. So you tell me, if they were receiving grading favors, is it likely they would complain so much ? I think not. Yes they do. But I know of no respectable dealer who uses these services. For that matter I know of no respectable collector who uses them either. You even mentioning such services does nothing to support your argument. On the contrary it hurts your argument for these services you mention are not even considered to be legitimate grading companies. Then why would you make claims that seem to say that you agree with the premise of the thread ? That being that PCGS favors big name dealers ? An established fact that some do WHAT exactly ? Hand out favors ? Or that the TPGs are in business to make money ? First of all the subject of this thread is PCGS and that PCGS hands out grading favors to large dealers. That is specifically what I am saying is ludicrous. And I have stated my reasons for saying it is ludicrous - it's not just because I say so. As I have stated above - first of all the graders have no idea at all who is submitting any given coin. So it is impossible for them to hand out grading favors. And this is true of NGC and PCGS. That is a cold hard fact - not an opinion.[/QUOTE]
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