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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;pcgsngcfraud, post: 1066143, member: 28523&quot;]<b>PCGS and NGC Defraud Collectors in Favor of Dealers</b></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I was fortunate enough to inherit a large &quot;raw&quot; coin collection from my Grandfather.&nbsp; Well I signed up for a collector account with PCGS and NGC, and began the grading process.&nbsp; Some of the coins came back worth as much 10k, so naturally I sold a few on Ebay to dealers.&nbsp; One day I was bored and I decided to check on the certification numbers for my graded and much to my surprise, these dealers were resubmitted my coins, and coins that were graded MS63-64 were suddenly MS66 and above.&nbsp; Not to mention a Morgan I sent in came back to me as a MS64 and I sold it to a dealer.&nbsp; The dealer resubmits under his dealer account and guess what, his grade is MS66 Vam Broken Bonnet.&nbsp; I started doing experiments, I have distributed to coins to my friends throughout the country, and they seeked out the largest PCGS/NGC authorized dealers in there areas.&nbsp; Long story short, the grades that came back to the dealer nearly tripled the value given under a collector account.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Why do you guys trust these people with your coins?&nbsp; I have been defrauded out of nearly 100k over fraudulent grades.&nbsp; Do the alleged top tier grading companies make errors like not recognizing a MS66 Broken Bonnet Vam.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Last example, I sent a Walker 1917 S OBV to PCGS and NGC it came back questionable mint mark.&nbsp; I gave it to a dealer the grade that came back to him was MS63.&nbsp; Every person that has submitted under a collector account (minus pcgs/ngc insiders) should get together and file a class action lawsuit.&nbsp; These two companies should not be allowed to defraud trusting collectors.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I am going to post all the discrepencies and have also hired an attorney to take out ads in the major newspapers across the country.&nbsp; Stating the facts and letting collectors be the judge.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Good Luck to all of you have been defrauded by PCGS and NGC.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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