PCGS certification...

Or was it the "Paddy" Duke show?

 

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No, it was Patty.

 

I believe Rick hit it on the head with the stock photo as it states 1 sold one left.
Leads me to believe he had several he sent in and is now selling.

 

Maybe I'll have to add a 10% fee on your purchases next coin show!
BTW the wife and I were invited over to Rose and Ralph ' s Christmas eve. It was a very nice evening . ....I made Crab dip.

 

Hmm...

 

Tongue in cheek Rick...

 

So they are doing photoshop on slabs? That's not just using stock images.

 

LOL! Crab dip is the best! We had tile fish and shrimp at my son's place.

 

Seriously, man. People simply don't care where they source images. Most of this guy's auctions are for multiple examples of similar stuff; he probably just shot one of the Eagles and used the same image for both auctions.

I'm pretty_sure it's his own image - I see a similar processing workflow throughout his auctions - but it's definitely a "stock" image in that sense. Ebay says "Don't use stock images" specifically in their selling rules for coins, but they also specifically call out "single coin sales" in a few places to differentiate the rule without actually mentioning multiple coin sales.

I get that, in one sense. If you want to unload 50 identical slabbed ASE's in one auction, images of each would be a monumental hassle and probably do more harm than good.

 

When I sell multiples in one eBay listing, I do that. One photo with a disclaimer that cert numbers will vary.

 

I'm talking about the first image the OP brought up. The cert # does not match the coin in the slab.

 

Yeah, that's a BIG mistake on PCGS's part...but JMBullion apparently didn't catch it either.

 

/facepalm

Mea culpa.

I'm not_quite_sure what the heck JMB is doing with the OP coin. An ASE slab with an Ike cert?

They're using that same number on other ASE sales, and I saw a 1941-D MS66FS Nickel cert on another ASE.

 

I'm sure it's not the owners doing this. Probably some minimum wage workers who know nothing about coins.

 

I just stumbled across it by chance...I was doing a price comparison on an '87 ASE and plugged it in to PCGS.

 

I don't think PCGS made a mistake. I have never seen PCGS use the same cert number several times on different coins. It has to be the seller playing with an imaging program of some type.
When I here the use of the words "stock photo" I think of someone using the same photo to sell coins of the same date and grade.
The images in the first link are all different images with different dates and coins but have the same cert number.

 

I'm gonna call JMBullion this am (if they are open today) and see what they listed for that #

 

That's it. I'm gonna call jmb and tell them I can no longer be a shill for a company that doesn't verify their slabs for sale to the tpg certs. My shilling days are over!

Oh wait, wrong thread. Sorry

 

So, is there a true problem with the certification of this coin? Well yes. How could JM, a qualified company say that this Liberty, PCGS cert #21384542, has a value of $19.00 ? Because it goes with a 1972 $1 MS62, but what, with no picture on their site. Banter, what does it go to ?

 

Bear, it's actually a 1987-S Eagle proof...here's the coin. I called them today, but they are closed.
http://www.jmbullion.com/1987-american-silver-eagle-pcgs-pr70-dcam/