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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Cloudsweeper99, post: 166363, member: 3011&quot;]I tend to agree with this, but not to the point of calling it illegal.&nbsp; It&#039;s just something everyone has to realize and be mentally prepared to deal with.&nbsp; Whenever there is a lot of buying and selling taking place, it is basically a competitive activity where each side works to obtain the best deal possible.&nbsp; If one side is trying to assemble a collection out of love for the coins, but the other side is trying to make money, guess who&#039;s likely to &quot;win?&quot;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;ve said before that I think bodybagging is a scam by the TPGs to increase profits.&nbsp; When someone pays to have a coin slabbed and graded, it should be slabbed and graded even if the grade is &quot;MS61-Cleaned.&quot;&nbsp; I don&#039;t think there is a precident for this behavior in any other business - to charge for a service not performed and have the customers willingly accept this treatment year after year and continue to send in repeat business.</p><p><br /></p><p>The whole cleaning thing gives me brain-cramps too.&nbsp; I frequently see cleaned Morgan and Peace dollars honestly labelled &quot;cleaned&quot; by some honest dealers and selling for a discount to other coins in the same condition, but I can&#039;t/won&#039;t buy them because of the stigma even though I like the coins.&nbsp;&nbsp; I&#039;m not entirely sure why cleaning isn&#039;t considered another form of wear, so that a cleaned MS61 is really just considered AU.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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