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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Jaelus, post: 3175838, member: 46237&quot;]Well, &quot;to me&quot; in that I primarily deal in Austro-Hungarian material and as that is how the term is used numismatically to describe those coins, it is what I am used to. My examples above were rhetorical - they are both considered to be specimens.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m not sure about the rest of the world markets, but my educated guess is that they are very similar to Austro-Hungarian as I&#039;ve seen a fair amount of world specimens. Defending a narrow US definition of specimen because that&#039;s the way it&#039;s been done, is a tenuous position. Clearly the TPGs do not agree with you.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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