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<p>[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 3175164, member: 46237"]The problem with the term specimen is that it's already a non-numismatic word with a clear definition - "an example of something such as a product or piece of work, regarded as typical of its class or group". To then say that specimen coins only exist within a certain time period seems arbitrary.</p><p><br /></p><p>To me, a specimen is a coin specially produced for limited distribution to serve as an example of a coin prior to its official production. A specimen can be a proof, it can also be a pattern. The intent of a specimen is informal, unlike with a presentation piece.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, the Hungarian 1867B 10 Krajczár was a pattern, but special examples were struck to give to all the members of Parliament prior to the coin being produced. The design was slightly changed and the mint mark was also changed for the business strike produced in 1868. This coin is a pattern specimen. Likewise, examples of the 1868KB 4 Krajczár were also produced as specimens, in-between production of the patterns and the business strikes, which are much closer to the business strikes (minor die differences) than to the pattern dies. They are neither patterns nor proofs, and are not official business strikes either. What term would you call them, Doug, if not specimens?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 3175164, member: 46237"]The problem with the term specimen is that it's already a non-numismatic word with a clear definition - "an example of something such as a product or piece of work, regarded as typical of its class or group". To then say that specimen coins only exist within a certain time period seems arbitrary. To me, a specimen is a coin specially produced for limited distribution to serve as an example of a coin prior to its official production. A specimen can be a proof, it can also be a pattern. The intent of a specimen is informal, unlike with a presentation piece. For example, the Hungarian 1867B 10 Krajczár was a pattern, but special examples were struck to give to all the members of Parliament prior to the coin being produced. The design was slightly changed and the mint mark was also changed for the business strike produced in 1868. This coin is a pattern specimen. Likewise, examples of the 1868KB 4 Krajczár were also produced as specimens, in-between production of the patterns and the business strikes, which are much closer to the business strikes (minor die differences) than to the pattern dies. They are neither patterns nor proofs, and are not official business strikes either. What term would you call them, Doug, if not specimens?[/QUOTE]
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