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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;messydesk, post: 3174230, member: 1765&quot;]No, they don&#039;t.&nbsp; The PCGS definition says it&#039;s used on those coins, but not to the exclusion of others.&nbsp; The ANA definition is even more open-ended, citing a common use for the word.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Because it&#039;s an inadequate definition of the word, as I have said and demonstrated.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I wish to have terms that represent all coinage, and if research reveals that terms and definitions are inadequate, they must be refined.&nbsp; SMS, ceremonial strike, and presentation piece merely represent the context of the manufacture of coins, and don&#039;t provide information as to method of manufacture.&nbsp; If you look at the four traits I outline above, those coins fall somewhere between business strike and proof coins.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Not true.&nbsp; Terms can, do, and must evolve to become more useful.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If the mint started producing reflective collector coins using an open collar on a screw press and methods that are not consistent with being a strictly proof coin, would you need to come up with a new word for this because of strict adherence to 1817 in your interpretation of the definition of specimen?&nbsp; If so, you would probably be nearly alone in using this term.&nbsp; If not, then the 1817 cutoff date becomes meaningless.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Perhaps, but it would appear they got it right.&nbsp; They had previously graded this coin MS65PL or MS65DMPL. It is by far the finest known of the die pair, and an obviously special coin.&nbsp; The thing I think they screwed up was the context in which it was made.&nbsp; I&#039;ve been told more information in confidence by a respected numismatist who will be releasing it soon that will make this coin even more interesting.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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