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<p>[QUOTE="Tim C, post: 3451647, member: 71569"]<font face="Calibri"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">If you think your 1966 is the FS-901, send that puppy in and get it attributed. I’ve paid my tuition to learn what it takes to get a variety attributed.</span></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Calibri"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">James Wiles does not and never has assigned FS number. FS stands for Fivaz and Stanton, the authors of the Cherrypickers’ guide. Whitman owns the book now and that company controls what varieties get assigned number, not CONECA, PCGS, NGC ANACS or any other third-party grading company. Not sure why you brought Allen Levy’s name into this.</span></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Calibri"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">What I can tell you is the Cherrypickers’ Guide states that the 1966 FS-901 has the description: The designer’s initials on the reverse are totally missing.</span></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Calibri"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Yes, I go by the Cherrypickers’ Guide because they determine what constitute each and every FS number and if a third-party grading company strays from what the CPG states and still puts an FS number on then it is mis attributed, period. When it comes to FS numbers, the Cherrypickers Guide is the only rule book.</span></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Calibri"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">As far as using “die states” to identifying certain varieties, come on, just think about the VAM numbers used on silver dollars or the clashes used on the “bug bunny” Franklin half dollars that are in the Cherrypickers’ Guide. Die states are used all the time to establish separate individual varieties. With the coin being discussed, the 1966 FS-901 only exist on Stage E of the DDO-002 referred to as the ADR-001. All other stages of the DDO-002 are not the ADR-001. Wiles nor I determined that the FS-901 was the ADR-001, the Cherrypickers’ Guide did that when they cross referenced the variety to the CONECA ADR-001 which is only Stage E of the CONECA DDO-002.</span></font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Calibri"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Yes, one of us is having trouble comprehending that the 1966 ADR-001 and ADR-002 are from different dies, both in the later part of their life. If they were from the same die, they would have both been listed as one with different die stages.</span></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Calibri"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Unlike the other grading companies, PCGS guarantee what they attribute as varieties and if they are wrong they stand behind it. I should qualify this, if you submitted the coin for variety attribution and PCGS made a mistake then they will fix it as a “mechanical error” (correcting the mistake only). If you bought the coin from someone else that was mis attributed then under their guarantee PCGS will pay you fair market value for what is on the label of the coin.</span></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Calibri"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">When it comes to collecting Kennedy half dollars and their varieties, I will admit that I’m still learning but not necessarily born last night.</span></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Tim C, post: 3451647, member: 71569"][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]If you think your 1966 is the FS-901, send that puppy in and get it attributed. I’ve paid my tuition to learn what it takes to get a variety attributed.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]James Wiles does not and never has assigned FS number. FS stands for Fivaz and Stanton, the authors of the Cherrypickers’ guide. Whitman owns the book now and that company controls what varieties get assigned number, not CONECA, PCGS, NGC ANACS or any other third-party grading company. Not sure why you brought Allen Levy’s name into this.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]What I can tell you is the Cherrypickers’ Guide states that the 1966 FS-901 has the description: The designer’s initials on the reverse are totally missing.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]Yes, I go by the Cherrypickers’ Guide because they determine what constitute each and every FS number and if a third-party grading company strays from what the CPG states and still puts an FS number on then it is mis attributed, period. When it comes to FS numbers, the Cherrypickers Guide is the only rule book.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]As far as using “die states” to identifying certain varieties, come on, just think about the VAM numbers used on silver dollars or the clashes used on the “bug bunny” Franklin half dollars that are in the Cherrypickers’ Guide. Die states are used all the time to establish separate individual varieties. With the coin being discussed, the 1966 FS-901 only exist on Stage E of the DDO-002 referred to as the ADR-001. All other stages of the DDO-002 are not the ADR-001. Wiles nor I determined that the FS-901 was the ADR-001, the Cherrypickers’ Guide did that when they cross referenced the variety to the CONECA ADR-001 which is only Stage E of the CONECA DDO-002.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]Yes, one of us is having trouble comprehending that the 1966 ADR-001 and ADR-002 are from different dies, both in the later part of their life. If they were from the same die, they would have both been listed as one with different die stages.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]Unlike the other grading companies, PCGS guarantee what they attribute as varieties and if they are wrong they stand behind it. I should qualify this, if you submitted the coin for variety attribution and PCGS made a mistake then they will fix it as a “mechanical error” (correcting the mistake only). If you bought the coin from someone else that was mis attributed then under their guarantee PCGS will pay you fair market value for what is on the label of the coin.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]When it comes to collecting Kennedy half dollars and their varieties, I will admit that I’m still learning but not necessarily born last night.[/COLOR][/FONT][/QUOTE]
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